With my stick placed such that my hand is resting on the rest, approximately level with my elbow, I can bang the stick around all day without it lifting.
That said, when I was "on my game" in dogfighting (which I haven't done much of in the past 10 years), I usually didn't win by smacking the stick around. I bled energy like a stuck pig when I did that. A smoother style virtually always worked better for me.
It's a perishable skill though. I didn't fly much in the couple of years before AF came out, and once it did I almost never did dogfighting. My concentration went to busting SAM sites and outflying the SAMs and my mind now just doesn't see the angles in a knife fight the way it used to.
