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Scratch that, go for orbit!
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https://www.spacex.com/launches/starship-flight-14 yeah they didn't reach nominals so they aren't going to continue, one of the mains shut down early and didn't come back on but boy the camera views are awesome and I even think I could see stars and possibly the moon in a couple views.
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Cut the mission short but they did make orbit and deployed the new V3 Starlink satellites with 10x the capacity of the V2. https://www.youtube.com/live/VKSRrTQr8e0?
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So as NASA would say “ A successful Failure “ like Apollo 13, made orbit, deployed the satellites. Not great, not terrible.
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Pretty close to great, actually. The most important goals, getting to orbit, deploying V3 satellites, and a controlled re-entry, were all accomplished. Super Heavy and Starship both have sufficient engine redundancy to be tolerant of some engines being lost. Kudos to SpaceX for pressing on to orbit despite the loss of one Vacuum optimized engine (oddly enough, the atmospheric optimized engines are what do all the critical work from the short burn to orbit, onward for the mission). Reducing the number of orbits from the original plan seems like a reasonable precaution. They lost out on collecting as much data on the day/night, hot/cold temperature cycling as they had planned, but what they got should still be informative. It will be interesting to see if SpaceX feels confidant enough to go for tower catches on both Super Heavy and Starship on Test Flight 15. They have caught Super Heavy before, and also had software call for a waive off, so that seems likely. A tower catch for Starship is riskier I presume, since they would be bringing the ship in over populated states. Plus, who knows what the FAA will allow/disallow... The satellites that were deployed will make a notable increase in Starlink system bandwidth. Starship Just Became a Money Making Machine(Partial quote. See the online article for embedded links) ...
It's almost impossible to believe what a huge upgrade Starship is to Falcon 9, and V3 Starlink is to V2.
"Each one of these V3 Starlink satellites being deployed right now increases the bandwidth capacity of the ENTIRE Starlink constellation by roughly 0.11%," Sawyer Merritt explained this morning. And one of the replies noted that "This one launch is over 2.8% of all bandwidth."
One launch. To increase Starlink capacity that much with V2 and Falcon 9, you'd need no fewer than 10 launches. But today's launch barely even tested Starship's capabilities. A fully loaded Starship will put 60 V3 satellites into orbit — eventually, at a fraction of the cost-per-kilogram of Falcon 9. And Starlink is already price-competitive with terrestrial high-speed internet services.
Now, do you begin to understand the economics of Elon Musk's "crazy" idea to put data centers in orbit?
The point isn't whether this engine or that one lost ignition. The point is that Starship today became a revenue-generating machine. First with Starlink, then with Starmind.
The company's fate is tied to Starship. A control room always erupts into cheers when the mission performs nominally, and today, Starship proved that it can generate revenue.
SpaceX shares are down nearly 1% on today's news.
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You are right CB, much more greatness rather than being terrible, they did accomplish their mission in spite of the issues it had.
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If I had to guess, and I do because I'm not privy to any real information, I would guess the Starship engine shutdown was probably as a result of overly precautious software guidelines rather than any real issue with the engine. As they gain more experience with these engines and tweak them for performance, reliability etc the software will be tuned to be a bit more lenient. I hope they go for a Starship catch soon. I also look forward to their getting the SuperHeavy/Starship assembly lines up to speed and spitting out launch vehicles like B-24's at Willow Run! 
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1925 - $153.00
2025 - $20,497.00
"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz (RIP)
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Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
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Thanks OG, that video pretty much details everything, a good synapse and summary of that flight, evidently a very successful flight albeit with some issues which were addressed with. Thanks for posting that because it cleared up things for me.
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J-B Weld
by Terl9999 - 10/02/26 11:54 PM
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HOA's
by Terl9999 - 09/18/26 04:12 AM
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