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Can I set the instant missions anywhere in the ini so I don't get night missions??I'm lucky to tell whats going on in daylight forget night missions can't see squat

Hello.

If I remember rightly, the instant mission settings are based on the last single mission you flew, with a smattering of variety of weather and time settings. They are supposed to be random, but if you flew a Spit Mk1a in single mission, you'll always get a Spit Mk1a in instant mission.

Hmmm Seems I set up a few daytime missions and still get a night mission in instant mission,,,Guess the best solution would be just set up single missions..thanks col

I was wondering this same thing, I get night missions sometimes, when even tho, I have selected day in single missions. It seems random but happens alot. Sometimes restarting the instant mission or game seems to help.

Exactly what happens here Mark..I would like a somewhat random mission once in awhile instead of ones I created,,Duhh I'm too dumb to think of restarting things

For the instant mission, or Quickstart in 1.28 - 1.28c, and likey d
"QuickVersion=0" default Quickstart (random mission type)
"QuickVersion=1" very small battle size + random mission type.
"QuickVersion=2" very small battle size + last selected mission type (single mission setup)
"QuickVersion=3" very small battle size + Figthersweep
"QuickVersion=4" very small battle size + Escort
With QuickVersion > 0 Bombers only will get interdicts

for 1.28e I think it was changed at some point to less but try these anyway.

from the readme's, condensed here:
http://www.sandbagger.uk.com/RafRoy/EAW1.28C-b-a-Editing.zip

others documents and add-ons:
http://www.sandbagger.uk.com/rafroyadd.html

that's my page actually.

Also;
There are settings for time of day knegel made. I don't have the readme handy but fairly sure there is a copy here in the forum or archive. MrJelly had one online somewhere also I think.

MarkEAW;
I have a bunch of documents newer other than those online and excerpts and notes from development threads if you want them, PM me.

There's also stuff at the old Wiki. actually the 1.28e readme I think is there?

Also I'm the one who first thought of the versions, and crudely created the original one, particularly for the "QuickVersion=1" very small battle size + random mission type (my favorite type of quick mission).

Other things discovered in my first effort was the case of bombers mission resulted in discovery of formation with individual marked skins. I happened since actually my crude code made the leaders of other formations group into a wing. Each leader of course having their own logo.
Later modders saw this, just as plenty of other things I thought of or test beds like OAW missions and BeachHell Isles (which actually lead to a lot of other developments by modders.

Knegel created the rest of the options, coded and refined them.

Oh also, use offline single mission from multiplayer mission. It is a version MrJelly developed. It would have more settings an some differences to occurances, missions, etc

FsFoot
Thanks for the informative answers..Looking at 1.28D which is the earliest version I have installed right now ,And also 1.40 and 1.50 the only reference to quick missons is QuickVersion=0 which you referenced in an earlier post If I change that setting to =1 I'll get small battle + random mission ,,That's what I would like to achieve...Jeez. OK re reading your post I see It's just a change to the line QuickVersion=??? I was thinking all the lines needed to be entered....OK now to answer my original question how do you get day missions only ..Other than reloading things if a night mission shows up??

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying go into the multiplayer settings menu screen and that will also setup a single mission in EAW v1.40 rather than using the single mission menu screen?

Mark The left hand screen in MP looks like the single mission setup screen..I see no advantage there and don't understand how that would end up single player.FsFoote's ini entries seem best and if I get a night start just restart the whole sheebang until I see daylight

okay Russ, thanks. I don't understand it myself unless all the settings are manipulated the same way from both screens. Thats an area of the INI and the Mission files I don't get.

OK looking at Mr Footes post two parameters stand out to me

"QuickVersion=2" very small battle size + last selected mission type (single mission setup)
Quick way of launching a single mission you might have set up for training

"QuickVersion=1" very small battle size + random mission type.
Good random mission setup if you just want a quick fly,,Which I do a lot..
The others seem like set piece battles and I don't know how random they are.
Looks likes something you could add to your ini guide

All of this has been interesting, but to me an instant mission is exactly that.
If you have to edit your "eaw.ini", or run a single/multiplayer set-up before selecting an instant mission, then it is no longer an instant mission, and it defeats the purpose.

Russ, thanks perhaps I will, thank you.

Jel, your right, maybe it should be called 'random mission' if none of the settings work to adjust it. I don't know, I just dislike the night missions popping up in Instant Mission, That's about the only time I restart to try to get something during the daylight.

The start of this thread was to ask if there was a way to only get daytime missions,,I like random missions as a great way to learn planning but due to eyesight restrictions I have problems with night missions all I can see is the tracers,From the replies I've figured if I get a night mission just restart everything until I get a day/dawn mission ,,The rest of the parameters are fine with me.

yes just change the eaw.ini section.

By hand or use a tool, like my tool here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0803xew1fii8ci3/GetRemapKeys.zip

the default is:
"QuickVersion=0" default Quickstart (random mission type)
so change 0 to 2 and you get:
"QuickVersion=2" very small battle size + last selected mission type (single mission setup)'

Also to set your plane type and country you can set in .ini or go into single mission plane selection screen (1.28e era) and slect your plane then go back to main menu and the quick mission

Everything within the eaw.ini can / is actually be controlled via the source code.
.ini files are just text files, and an old programming convention to control settings. I did not invent them .. lol.
If someone wanted they could just program a drop down menu from the main screen, or make a menu. Just like any windows program has a menu.
My intention was to make quick mission window for that. That would also have plane selections, load .msn etc.
That was my whole plan originally.

You see quick missions are different than any other missions.
Due to the way EAW sets up them, the rules it can use are / can be - different.
It is in a way a crossover between singel, campaign and / or online mission.
That is to say aircraft bases, etc, takeoff can spawn outside the frontlines, and so forth.
Mission files can be coded differently, etc.

That is one of the reason the single mission within multiplayer works differently.

MrJelly should know all that since he programmed the single / (fake) multi-mission code and knows all the code in there extensively!. But probably he forgot as so busy over the years.
There is a lot else I forgot also.

For the quick mission (its was not to be instant mission really that is the point) There are even other settings, Knegel made. especially 1.28e era.
I have no time today to find the details. What Ralf wrote They are probably in the code group forum, but also in readme somewhere.

This is a whole problem about EAW development is so much is barely documented or easily available of the possible mods / changes.

But maybe you can find it.
It works like if you save a series of I think the FSxxxxxx.msn or whatever save file, in the proper order than each time you run quick mission it will rotate the mission to the next and next, etc.

The fact is you can make a whole mini-campaign or scenario so to speak using that.

Even without it using a folder system if you use your mind you can grasp it is possible to load folders series of missions the game will use - via tool like OAWselect, etc. or just reanme the folder by hand and switch it.

I have not time today sorry very busy.

Remember to always search the forum here. and the archives:


http://simhq.net/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/85/2/EAW.html

(unfortunately there is a period in the EAW archives that were lost in a server transfer - so some posts may be missing. I don't remember which years are lost but some where in the mid 2000's I think).

I usually posted some more info when I discovered something or to elaborate on other mods, etc. and so did others.

Laters gators

I have just looked at the source code.
A random time is programmed, but it is possible to change this to limit things to dawn, day, or dusk by replacing the code.
I have tried this in a 150 exe and am testing it to see if night instant missions are still generated due to some other factor.

Jel:
The answer to stuff is not changing to new code for everything.. making another .exe

I'm telling you already knegel did that, for single or online? mission. there is a whole time selection on the menu somewhere I think in multiplayer. But maybe in 1.28e or 1.3
You configure that for your mission.

Also fyi anyone who doesn't know when you select a mission if the target is far away and you do 'instant' you may be at night or dawn, why? because far enough away its is not dawn yet.

Just so you know for sure. I am FsFOOT


just a suggestion, never listened to, that would help this forum:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3861317/just_a_suggestion;_try_reducin#Post3861317