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yes Rainer it is really beautifully! :thumbs_up:


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Sorry Rainer if this was asked and answered before but will Tiger vs T34 support Track IR? with Vector Expansion?

The interior looks smashing really and TIR would add to its immersion greatly.

BTW, have you seen the Black Shark (LOMAC) cockpit video with TIR support?

http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/03-enhanced-games/game-lock-on-12-black-shark.html

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2Rainer:
I don't talk about rubber-rimmed wheels or steel-wheels;). I spoke about how wheels were modelled in the game. Compare pictures or even plastic models wheels with what we have in the pre-alpha status game then you'll see the defference. First of all where are the bolts which were fixed with those "dishes"?
They announced that it's gonna be a sim but at this time I can't see historically correct details on model which for the sim MUST be showed. Especially when we have just TWO playable tanks:) What do you think about this?

Rainer, a BIG THANKS for your screenshots. Appreciate that.

@ Daly, it's a WIP game so don't search for nuts... it's the same when I say in Il-2 the BF109 fly 5,7 km/h to slow... just peanuts!!!!

man enjoy the "developing" <--- and relax!

Cheers

Sorry to be a rivet counter but should the gunners sight be binocular or monocular in relation to a late Tiger.Shh sorry just checked my references.Last production Tigers had the monocular sight.Still they had the best optics in the war.Reckon out to 4000 yards a good gunner could hit with the 3rd shot.

Listen, we talk about the SIM ,right? Every sim begins with modelling, physics etc. Dev's announced their game as a sim so we should assume it like that, right? If so then let me ask you again: where historically corrected wheels?

P.S. Please don't mix flight and ground sims they're two different things!

I will get with the devs about that! That's interesting. I think we had different reference for that....

Do you maybe have a reference photo handy?

Well, give them more time to do detail-work....

That is impressive stuff! All I can do is to ask the devs about Track-IR support.... I hope they will implement it.

Hey Rainer.Can,t find any interior shots of the later tiger.Just in a few Tiger pics you can see only one hole in the tigers turret mantlet instead of two.All I have found is this passage in "The modellers guide to the tiger Tank"by military minitures.Quote..."theT.Z.F.9b was a binocular gunners sight used for direct fire.Binocular sights were generally better for long term use,with less eye strain than the monocular sight."also read here for more info tiger tank development .anyway the interior looks great so far.Keep up the spectacular work guys. :thumbs_up:

Hi 453Raafspitty

TFZ9b pictures for Rainer are on the way!



sorry, but the pictures are copyright!!!!!!

Gru� NSU

I have some photos showing the Mono sight in a book .. I need to get my scanner back next week Ill pop them on here.
Its of the AusF E next to the 8.8cm Kwk36

The actual stats for the TZF9b (Ausf E early) bx2.5 and the TZF9c mx2.5 (Mono)late))are the same except the Early sight had 26 degrees of FOV ( Field of View) comapred to the Late Mono had 25 degrees FOV with a 8,000 m's Indirect focus.

The drivers Episcope was KFF2 bx1.0 (Binocular x magnificatin) with a 60 FOV

Cheers guys I know someone had the answer.Hey Rainer any research that is needed for the Developers just ask here we will be happy to oblige :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

The definitive site for Tiger I information:

http://tiger1.info/

PC

this is from a late war tiger I :



more pics from this tiger here : http://tiger1.info/vim/vimoutiersgb.htm

also a late war tiger I :



original website : http://tiger1.info/saumur/english/sommaire.html

both of these tigers were captured/destroyed in france in 1944. Their production numbers are 251113 and 251114

Steel wheels were bought in on chassis number250822,Feb2 1944.Geez you guys will be arguing about bolt placement next.

Hi,
I was just wondering if there will be any scenario editor included,i hope they will include a user friendly scenario editor(not like balkans on fire)for more interesting and unlimited play!

Why not? First it's a SIM. So everything MUST be on it's own place, right?

And how far down are we supposed to go.Can,t use that part as the 506th never had such and such on their Tigers.Gees at that late stage in the war a lot of the German armour were scattered about different parts of the front.Individual Tigers,even the mid productions that were lucky enough to survive were used to prop up defences in individual infantry companies.Even tanks built right next to each other would have been slightly different in some way.Plus repairs they had to use what was available at the time to keep the crews going so mismatching of parts would have been rife.Looking in my references there were at least three different steel wheels used.Which type is right.Plus in winter,boggy terrain they removed the back outside wheel to reduce mud buildup.I agree generally a Late tiger should represent a late Tiger.And a T34/85 should generally look like a T34/85 but when I,m in my tiger with 30 Red tanks assaulting me I,m not gonna give two hoots if the T34 turret misses that rough caste look the russian tanks had.I,m going to fight my way out.Lets leave the details to the skinners and if its a tad wrong hopefully the Devs will let the hardcore rivet counters fix them at home.Plus as Rainer stated the sim is still being developed.Wait till the final product comes out,then we can have a winge.

Here's a blog from dev, in russian, with few images.
http://www.dtf.ru/articles/read.php?id=39684&page=4