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Considering we've seen so little of Normandy compared to Hormuz and NTTR, I'd say they'll be released in that reverse order. WHEN is a totally different matter, but the order is fairly clear. I allow wiggle room for Normandy to come out before Hormuz in case they redirect efforts.



The Jedi Master

No point in building normandy until after the WWII units are done.

conversely, it has been pointed out to me that there is no point in buying WW2 add ons if there is no WW2 maps to fly over.

Guys, Battle of Stalingrad is available for your WW2 warbird fix.

Oh yeah, I went there.

I been there too and concurr.

All of this DCS WW2 junk is humbug, just detracts development resources from DCSW2 and the HornetC.. Already well covered in BoS and CoD.

You could say that,

I have however played some nice missions with the -51D and Other WW2 aircraft, on modern Georgia map.

With Normandy, its being modeled in the WWII timefrane, so it would be odd to run missions with Hunmers, BTRs, SA-8s and Manpads etc. In a terrain modeked to be 1944ish.

He was being sarcastic I think, but honestly yeah there's modern WWII stuff for that fix. What's in DCS I consider in the same vein as WWII planes in FSX, it's just there to play with and appreciate.

Nromandy will be insane, no radars, no modern stuff, and lots of planes everywhere, no missile worries, just flak and guns :-)

If all you care for is dogfighting, then terrain is almost irrelevant. Any patch of land without ADA will do to let you tussle A2A with an enemy.

If you want to go ground pounding, THAT is when the proper terrain is needed. I admit I probably split my time 50/50, I know some prefer one or the other.



The Jedi Master

But the Stang is still tons of fun if mudmoving is your thing. It was used in Korea as a ground attack plane and there're period ground unit mods available now, plus a great tropical scenery you can use to make it all look a bit nicer. Not in any way historical per se, true, but at least a plausible 50-60s scenario still.

P-51s vs Trains is a common thing..

strong community and nice developer, not a bad choice





my best guesstimate is late 2016 for the Normandy map

COD is currently the best WW2 combat sim at the moment, BUT it won't have VR support for quite sometime if ever. I'm looking forward too DCS WW2, the new EDGE graphic engine, and Oculus Rift CV1 support. Once you fly with decent VR, few will go back to flying with a monitor and TrackIR.

I'm looking forward to using the Rift doing carrier traps, not in a P-51 flying over a beach.

I understand bringing in Oleg and company to boost brand acceptance with the prop heads, but that didn't really pan out did it.

So please quit wasting time and bring on the jets! Guessing ED/DCS has a contract with some airforce for training sims with all
their attention to trainers, but the Mirage looks cool. And a Typhoon in the works. WoW.

I'm like Chivas: I want DCS WW2 because it's the only combat sim with real VR support in the mid term. We might be a tiny minority right now, but once VR hmds will reach the stage of consumer distribution VR support will be a key feature that simmers will look for. Once you've tried simming in VR it's really really hard to go back to monitor. I don't see myself simming in non-VR in 2016 (I barely do now, I spend most of my time in DSC and Prepar3d with my DK2).
PS: even without the VR aspects, IL2 BOS is not really a sim I enjoy anyway, I don't count it as fulfilling my needs for a WW2 sim

The trainers that have been released, such as the Hawk and C-101 were 3rd party driven and ED had no bearing
on those choices except to grant rights into their platform. I will say, although I may be wrong, that I believe
ED has priority to other contracts which I'm sure are military driven. The focus as far as the commercial/entertainment
side is for ED to get the core (DCSW2) nailed down. I will agree and say that this is taking way too long considering that in 2013 we were getting close to release.

what Mirage ?



some people might call me too optimistic, but a last quarter 2015 and no later than second quarter 2016 would be a good guesstimate.

RazBam is doing the Mirage,

The Trainers C-101 and Hawk are Also 3rd party projects.

which Mirage ? my favorite maybe : the IIIC ?

Mirage 2000 (don't know which version)