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Hpasp #3585896 06/04/12 02:37 PM
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I think in this case you have no chance, just try the scenario and look at the SR-71's trajectory :-)

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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
This is a TOUGH scenario. I have just done some tries with a conventional warhead with no luck. I figured out when I fire at azimuth of SNR of about 55 degrees, the missile will be at about 50km far when SR-71 moves to north (azimuth of zero degrees). I will try some other proximity fuse settings but I think it is a no go (jamming makes it very hard). CIA planners planned the SR-71's trajectory and its mission well.


Same was with SA-2F against SR-71... I think you are on the right path... yep

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Hi, are you observing the same:
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I've instaled 924 over the same folder, but it asked me about that I had a newer version of one file and I choose to overwrite all... Then uninstalled it and reinstall the SIM, so don't know how it goes with you... On the first map - only Hungarian, on the second - no label (maybe it hasn't at all, but still...). confused

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My installation went correctly - I just told the installer to overwrite everything.
In case of uninstallation, just for sure, delete SAM Simulator directory from Program Files manually.

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Lonewolf: How have you managed to kill the SR-71 with a nuclear warhead? It is jamming so you do not have range information and V-760 15D requires K3 detonation. How SNR would know when to send K3 (while you are unable to track in range)?

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Lonewolf: How have you managed to kill the SR-71 with a nuclear warhead? It is jamming so you do not have range information and V-760 15D requires K3 detonation. How SNR would know when to send K3 (while you are unable to track in range)?

SNR will send out the K3, when the V-760 is at the Range Boresight...
... the question is where to move it.

(I propose to use the IADS plus the I87V)
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
My installation went correctly - I just told the installer to overwrite everything.
In case of uninstallation, just for sure, delete SAM Simulator directory from Program Files manually.


Did you checked the pics? Do you see those BIP's like me???

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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
My installation went correctly - I just told the installer to overwrite everything.
In case of uninstallation, just for sure, delete SAM Simulator directory from Program Files manually.


Did you checked the pics? Do you see those BIP's like me???


My recommendation is just to uninstall the earlier version (you could also delete the SAMSIM directory), before installing a new version.


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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Originally Posted By: milang
guys this is very intresting for me!!! why almost attack to radar radiation begin at daybreak ??? why? reading


Several reasons...
- attackers know when they will attack, so they can be ready for fight, while defenders are just woken up.
- all optically aimed AAA+MANPADS are rendered unusable
- psychological stress on civilians, by keeping the city up during the night
- easier to rescue downed pilots
- Western pilots fly during the night, better than their counterparts
- ... etc

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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Originally Posted By: milang
wow guys... loook at this picture!!! main console of sa-6 after upgrade! full of beauty sence!

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Nice shots, just one cautious comment...

... simply exchanging the old sturdy Russian analogue instruments to vulnerable LCD displays from the Far East, while keeping the same missile and radar is only a cosmetic change, that may actually reduce the system war-fighting capability.

When Hungary upgraded its SA-6 to NATO standards...
... new optical target tracking camera was added, with new displays, but the possibility to fall-back to the original Russian instruments were kept.


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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Lonewolf: How have you managed to kill the SR-71 with a nuclear warhead? It is jamming so you do not have range information and V-760 15D requires K3 detonation. How SNR would know when to send K3 (while you are unable to track in range)?


By using I87V. It is pretty accurate against high-altitude targets.

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Thanks both to Hpasp and Lonewolf :-) Will give it a try :-)

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Originally Posted By: Lonewolf357
By using I87V. It is pretty accurate against high-altitude targets.


I think it is pretty accurate against NON-MANEUVERING targets, no matter the heigh... thumbsup

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Yes, non-maneuvering since you enter altitude and range data manually thumbsup

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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Yes, non-maneuvering since you enter altitude and range data manually thumbsup


Altitude OR range data.

The trick is to let the IADS to supply this data into the I87V directly.
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Three missiles exploded without a hit (conventional with K3 detonation, with proximity fuse I was not able to get close enough). They diverted much at 50km range when approached SR-71.

I found out to fire between 95-105km is probably the best solution. But probably due to maximum range the missiles went off in altitude near the target.

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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
I found out to fire between 95-105km is probably the best solution. But probably due to maximum range the missiles went off in altitude near the target.


For me, the azimuth is a bigger concern... wink

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From which base do you shoot? I am at the most eastern one.

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I tried to do some tests with calculated missile position (EPSILON PR. P. BETA switch in A screen) but no luck.
I noticed missiles deviate at at target also in azimuth.

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