homepage Forums Air Combat & Civil Aviation Battle of Britain + Battle of Britain II Airplanes have the shakes?

I purchased BoBII when I read about the 2.05 patch and received it Saturday. Got it all patched up and started playing it, mostly trying to figure out how to start a Spitfire without reading the manual.

Everything is fine, except for the planes. They shake and shudder in external view. Whether viewing my formation from internal view or viewing my own plane in external view, they shake. Internal view is fine, I don't have any of this shaking visible.

Doesn't happen when the plane is on the ground, just when it gets airborne.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Not sure, but try changing in the Options. Turn off wind effects and wind gusts.
I'm sure there is an answer- and that it will be forthcoming.

HTH

Welcome to BobII and it great community. I do recommend you download the 2.04 manual and review it (sticky thread above) and reffer to it as BobII has many enjoyable options. The 2.05 manual will be out in 2 weeks.

Yes, we do have a problem in outside view when viewing your wingmen that we have not solved. It is on the list to be worked on.

I do not think we have had a problem when viewing your own plane in outside view.

Thanks for the replies. I'll read the manual and mess around with the settings.

What are your system specs? I can't run all the options on high graphics settings as they are very intensive. Try turning water and weather settings to low first. Then go up from there.

I have smooth framerates, it's the planes. I tried changing some flight settings but that didn't change it. It actually looks like a jerky/stuttery framerate on the plane only, terrain and everything else is smooth. That is only in external view. In internal view everything is fine, except friendly aircraft. I haven't actually noticed it against 109s/110s or the bombers when attacking them, which is wierd.

Maybe I'll just go back and reinstall, see if that fixes it.

Boy, that is weird.

I guess try a reinstall, and go from there.

Also in the bdg.txt file try setting the "SMOOTHEN_FRAMERATE_MODE=LIMIT_AND_SMOOTHEN", without the quotes of course, and all caps.

Also you may want to try the "stop_srv.bat" in the BoB folder. Helps to free up system resources. I hane a copy of it on the desktop and use it before playing any games as it does help.

I have exactly the same problem. If I look outside my cockpit my wingmen are all doing a crazy back and forwards jitter (the exact opposite of smooth). This only effects friendly wingmen and really spoils the immersion. I try not to look at them because they are just embarrassing. If anyone finds a solution I'd be glad to hear it.

Hi Guys,

Yes, we do have a problem with the wingmen shaking that I have not been able to find and fix.

It is a priority and I am trying to find the cause but it is not simple as all the other A/C are OK.

Actually if you try some of the training missions the wingmen look OK. Just more confusion for me.

It seem to be the first think the new players notice, unfortunately.

Just a quick question, when you see the shaking wingmen, are you using the Hat switch, are you going to Outside view (F6), or some other method?

I think this problem is based on the fact that wingmen, who fly in formation with you, look like beeing attached to your wing and try to fly a perfect formation, so the whole flight looks like a puppet on a string. It's the way the game tries to keep them in formation. And all this jumping and shaking is nothing more but small corrections to keep their formation perfect. So i doubt that that can really been fixed, as it's not really a bug.

Yes, you may be right. That said, they can take on a high speed shudder sometimes whilst in level flight (not always for me, though). But then I don't know any other sim that models such close formation flying. Most just space the AI out far enough that you cannot see such issues. But the RAF really did fly ludicrously close in the BoB period.

Hmmm, I don't really buy this (that it can't be fixed). I am used to close formation flying in IL2 and have never had these issues there. I only noticed this when looking over my shoulder with TrackIR. I just don't look anymore becuase it really spoils immersion.

Strange, this problem is very small to my eye and not as you see it (I am thinking). Can you please tell me if you see the same shaking when viewing the wingmen without TrackIR as I do not have it?

Thanks in advance for the help.

I'll see if I can take a short FRAPS of it with and without TrackIR. It is VERY noticeable as you'll see.

ok, I think that would be really helpful. It's so hard to judge this one without seeing it.

Btw Bader, what is this line in the bdg.txt file good for?

REDUCE_SURFACE_DEFLECTION=ON

Does it have something to do how the game handles the stick input and how the control surfaces are beeing moved in the game? If so, which option is more realistic, on or off?

The 2.04 User Guide Chapter 3 has an explaination of REDUCE_SURFACE_DEFLECTION=ON
(sticky thread above for download).

Yes, most believe it is more realistic.

I just wanted to let you know that I made a fix for the Shakey wingmen and it is being tested on our beta forum for 2.06. It sound like a good fix so far. More later.

same thing with me (shaky wingmen) when using mouselook (no track IR)