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The person most responsible for this incident, the CEO, is dead. So to all you with pitchforks at the ready who are you going make "pay" now?

And one more time for those who might have missed the other two times: EVERYONE ABOARD WAS A ADULT.

People die taking stupid chances every day, everyone only gets wound up when it's hyped by the news media.

I can't agree with F4UDash's position here.

The fact that Rush has died -- if he has -- does not absolve his company of responsibility. The fact that they were all adults does not either. The fact that people die every day does not.

I have no pitchfork. I'm not wound up.

But I think, in the end, the waiver will prove decisive.

However, if negligence or misrepresentation or falsehoods were in play here, even that may not be sufficient.

I'm not looking to make anyone 'pay'. But those responsible should be held accountable for what happened here. The fact Rush is probably dead does not remove that responsibility from the corporation he owned.

I don't think we've begun to see the cascade of bad decisions that led to this fate. Whether a waiver assuming the risk is enough to counter that, I wouldn't know.

The person most responsible for this incident, the CEO, is dead. So to all you with pitchforks at the ready who are you going make "pay" now?

And one more time for those who might have missed the other two times: EVERYONE ABOARD WAS A ADULT.

People die taking stupid chances every day, everyone only gets wound up when it's hyped by the news media.

But I think, in the end, the waiver will prove decisive.

My son is 21 in a couple of months,

What age is your son???

Relevance?

Have you raised a son???

Two

Relevance?

I have one as well...and I hope the relevance he's going to mention is that as a father...there's no way in hell I would let my son go down to crush depth in some rinky dink sub that's entirely controlled by a friggin cheap ass Logitec controller. Throw on top of that no back up systems.

So yeah...as a father...I hold the Dad responsible for bringing his Son along on something so sketchy dangerous.

OceanGate began developing a composite carbon fiber and titanium-hulled submersible in collaboration with the UW's Applied Physics Lab (APL) in 2013,[19] tentatively named Cyclops 2; the first titanium structural components were ordered in December 2016 from Titanium Fabrication Corp. (TiFab),[21] and OceanGate signed a contract with Spencer Composites in January 2017 for the carbon-composite cylinder. Spencer previously had built the composite pressure hull for the single-person DeepFlight Challenger for Steve Fossett to a design by Graham Hawkes.[22] After Fossett died, DeepFlight Challenger was acquired by Richard Branson's Virgin Oceanic, which had announced plans to conduct a series of five dives to the deepest points of the oceans; DeepFlight refused to endorse the plan, as the craft had been designed to dive only once. Adam Wright, the president of DeepFlight, stated in 2014 "The problem is the strength of the [DeepFlight Challenger] does decrease after each dive. It is strongest on the first dive."[23]

I feel way less comfortable now with Boeing's use of carbon fiber on their airplane hulls now.

I feel way less comfortable now with Boeing's use of carbon fiber on their airplane hulls now.

The forces involved in an aircraft rising from sea level to 30,000+ feet vs a sub descending to 10,000+ deep are vastly different by multiple orders of magnitude.