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One thing that needs to be considered is the mil customer may have requested additional work. Unsure since they aren't really forthcoming with information.
However if its purely feature creep on the game side, I'd have requested a replacement for the lead engineer long ago. This isn't going to a good PR move. But they've shown to not give a crap about that.
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I'm astonished after those declaration, the Hornet still a yer to be released? This sim start to seem a real joke. Moving on this.
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With almost nothing about the Hornet shown so far, I'm not at all surprised on the delay. If you'd asked me a month ago I'd have said I don't expect it before the end of 2017. Now I don't expect it till mid-2018.  However, I was expecting 2.5 to be closer. The Jedi Master
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ED = Eagle Dynamics Extended Delays 
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With almost nothing about the Hornet shown so far, I'm not at all surprised on the delay. If you'd asked me a month ago I'd have said I don't expect it before the end of 2017. Now I don't expect it till mid-2018.  However, I was expecting 2.5 to be closer. The Jedi Master these news gave my Cats pause
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Your cats had no paws before they heard this? That's really...weird.
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ED = Eagle Dynamics Extended Delays Seems that way.
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Your cats had no paws before they heard this? That's really...weird.
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WOW, i'm not surprised at all about these delays. I've been playing modern combat sims since 90's (except for lomac series) and no other product has disappointed me as much as DCS, even civil aviation gives me way more pleasure than DCS (and i prefer way more military over civil). I regret that i wasted my money of DCS world for products that provided entertainment for just a short amount of time and a lot of headaches due to its bugs or bad implementation (eg. weapon behavior, AI). Since they don't have dynamic campaign, you would at least expect well designed missions, instead it's rather then opposite. You either have the same enemies pattern with just a few difference (a-10 missions) or missions with the difficulty raised above the normal because the weapons doesn't work as it should and you wing is rather inefficient (f-15 missions) or unrealistic mission (SEAD with an A-10). On their forum you can see defenders keep saying that all those issues will be addressed with time, you just have to pump money to make it possible and yet after years they are still providing the same old product with just visual upgrades and more bugs. Nothing against Russians, but call this coincidence it is the same old tape that you can read on BoS/BoM forum, so i started to not trust overall eastern devs anymore since as someone point out the issues they will be either directly banned or before being banned they will say something like "we know the truth and you know nothing.....i don't care whether you have real knowledge on the topic or not".
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just my 2c and specifically about the product DCS from a perspective of 12 years watching it develop from the early days of Lock On 1.0 it ain't so bad maybe expectations were not well managed implementation could be better it is not so bad that one would delete it from the HD and run for the door it fact, it is quite good it is what it is : a work in progress. back to skin making, did I mention today what a ghastly work intensive template the F-5E template is ? 
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On their forum you can see defenders keep saying that all those issues will be addressed with time, you just have to pump money to make it possible and yet after years they are still providing the same old product with just visual upgrades and more bugs. Nothing against Russians, but call this coincidence it is the same old tape that you can read on BoS/BoM forum, so i started to not trust overall eastern devs anymore since as someone point out the issues they will be either directly banned or before being banned they will say something like "we know the truth and you know nothing.....i don't care whether you have real knowledge on the topic or not".
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just my 2c and specifically about the product DCS from a perspective of 12 years watching it develop from the early days of Lock On 1.0 it ain't so bad maybe expectations were not well managed implementation could be better it is not so bad that one would delete it from the HD and run for the door it fact, it is quite goodit is what it is : a work in progress.back to skin making, did I mention today what a ghastly work intensive template the F-5E template is ?  Tom how long does it roughly take generally to do a skin template. I have Photoshop but haven't really looked into skinning. Guess that I shouldn't start with the F-5E? Recommend a better skin template to start with if I ever get the time.. I do enjoy DCS still even in the current state just as much as I do BMS, for different reasons tho. Such as realistic way of setting up training mission and that comes different from both of them too. You can setup a missions in DCS that will play out differently or random each time you play as you know. It's not a great deal different from BMS looking at simple things like doing a standard mission. Take off drop LGB defend etc. I do like how you can set up custom radio recordings in DCS set on triggers, can be very immersive if done right. The main thing that DCS needs that is coming (Two Weeks) is dedicated SEAD aircraft and better ATC and (better/closer?) weapon and damage modeling. I say closer to reality because all this plus the FMs would be ongoing forever potentially with PC evolution. I.E more CPU power more detail and closer to reality then longer wait times because of more coding? mmm frustrating... Once the SEAD aircraft and at least the ATC are done and then with carrier operations with VR. I may be almost done with BMS perhaps? Sorry Ice.. The WW2 aircraft in DCS do set the bar for me for the "feeling of flight", better than any other sim. I do get a lot of enjoyment just doing laps around the airfield and TRYING to land.
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I wonder if we'll see any new campaigns before the release of 2.5 
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Nothing against Russians, but call this coincidence it is the same old tape that you can read on BoS/BoM forum, so i started to not trust overall eastern devs anymore since as someone point out the issues they will be either directly banned or before being banned they will say something like "we know the truth and you know nothing.....i don't care whether you have real knowledge on the topic or not".
Thank God for the Russians, is what I say. Without Il-2 series, CloD, Rise of Flight, DCS high fidelity releases that just keep getting better, BoS/M/K series, combat flight simming is 15 years of wasteland.
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Nothing against Russians, but call this coincidence it is the same old tape that you can read on BoS/BoM forum, so i started to not trust overall eastern devs anymore since as someone point out the issues they will be either directly banned or before being banned they will say something like "we know the truth and you know nothing.....i don't care whether you have real knowledge on the topic or not".
Thank God for the Russians, is what I say. Without Il-2 series, CloD, Rise of Flight, DCS high fidelity releases that just keep getting better, BoS/M/K series, combat flight simming is 15 years of wasteland. I too take the positive optimistic approach here with simming, easy to overlook the positive and only see the negative (Yes communication could better). Very much looking forward to the next few years with VR and high fidelity sims getting better and better. I will be happy with VR Normandy and the Bf 109 for Xmas. Edit: Oh you have to mention BMS/falcon in that 15 yeas, otherwise Ice will get upset. We don't really need any other sim lol.
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I may be almost done with BMS perhaps? With the current pace of ED development, well, like I said, I hope you're not holding your breath. Sorry Ice..
Edit: Oh you have to mention BMS/falcon in that 15 yeas, otherwise Ice will get upset. We don't really need any other sim lol. Can't really make a post without a low personal attack, huh? Or is that your weird attempt at humor? Either way, you really should find something else to do. Like being honest with yourself.
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Yes Ice only kidding, we all know how much you love your BMS I do very much like it too. Some new DCS pics for you.. DCS: F/A- 18C DCS B17 ww2 Tanks and Normandy Spitfire
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