From a gameplay perspective...how cool would it be to get shot down, bailout, then have the mission prompt you for whether you'd like to attempt an extraction by flying the Huey or Mi-8 to pick up your own pilot (if you own that module).. That would be pretty cool.
After DCS 2.0 graphical updates are done hopefully we will see a new ATC, ground crew, ground procedures, dynamic campaign and more pilot details such as being court martialed for disobeying orders or being captured when ejecting behind enemy lines. In some older sims you can go KIA/MIA when ejecting depending on enemy/friendly area which is still better than not ejecting and definitely dying.
We have flown missions where shot-down player aircraft would spawn a radio emergency signal which Hueys could use to locate the pilot who would also be able to fire signal flares and talk to the Hueys on radio. Oh, and enemy troops would spawn and would advance on the pilot's location.
DCS can provide amazing missions in MP.
"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"
Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm
You won't have to pay for it, but you may have to pay for some of the content that makes use of it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC they've stated that the existing Crimea map will make use of some of the features of EDGE, but only the maps developed specifically for that environment (NTTR, Hormuz, Normandy, etc.) will make use of it to the full extent. The aircraft modules you own will make full use of it, but it's the new maps that seem to get the lions share of the excitement (and for good reason), and they've not said anything about how much those will cost, other than NTTR being free for Beta A-10C buyers.
Note that I'm not being critical of that... I don't mind paying for new content, as that keeps it coming. Though if I were running the show I'd look at giving the maps away if you owned/purchased certain modules, since aircraft sales are the core of the business.
I'd love to see the new engine, maps, and campaigns released as a discounted package to bring in more people. Especially the WWII stuff... put out a $90 package next Summer that included all 4 or 5 WWII aircraft available at the time (5 might be wishful thinking) plus the Normandy map and a quality campaign, and you'd bring in more of the 1946 holdouts.
I just want to see 4 figures worth of people playing in my server browser again.
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Digging up bones here, we all know how much lead time we were given for the black shark paid upgrade...........
I don't mind paying for it (if its reasonable) but I would hope ED have learnt a lesson and will engage us soon on expected prices for the fully developed new maps.
Keeping us the consumer in the loop, makes us the consumer happier to spend money. And I think this is where half the gripes come from.
But in any event, I look forward to more info
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Devs said there was stuff there, but you just couldn't see it.
Digging up bones here, we all know how much lead time we were given for the black shark paid upgrade...........
I don't mind paying for it (if its reasonable) but I would hope ED have learnt a lesson and will engage us soon on expected prices for the fully developed new maps.
Keeping us the consumer in the loop, makes us the consumer happier to spend money. And I think this is where half the gripes come from.
But in any event, I look forward to more info
Which through the years is the one biggest gripe about ED, and I keep people in the loop with my mods and stuff as while I do have "Death Star plans" overall I make it open so people can have some say, even if it means I have my plans and yours isn't included and may not be, etc. I know there's always proprietary information but sometimes...
Anyway that's some good stuff to know about Edge, and agree, more content is always better and quite frankly a new terrain is needed... the Caucauscus is fine but sometimes when you have to nudge yourself when flying the mountains means while I enjoy the terrain it has been awhile...
The EDGE Gfx Engine is part of DCSW2.0 and is free.
The only thing that is PDLC is the new maps for NTTR AND Hormuz, Eligible Users that pre ordered DCS A-10C will recieve NTTR for free.
Caucaus will be part of DCS2.0, but will not utilize some of the features of EDGE.
So when I bought my new car the salesperson showed me the key to it and all the cool things it did like unlock the car by being near it, had an LED light built in, and could pop the trunk. He also said it was free! Yup the key was free.
The car it opened and went with? That cost 27,000 dollars.
I am a huge fan of ED and DCS and work for a living to pay for my hobby. If I need the maps to utilize the features of Edge and the maps cost money, then Edge isn't free.
It's the shell game that causes the problems. People will always be crabby about having to pay for something, especially in an anonymous forum. Stop dancing around it. Tell us how much, and why, and build in quality, and players who are into it will happily purchase it.
Everybody gets everything they want. I wanted a mission. And for my sins..they gave me one.
Um, no. It's still free, because the current map will benefit from a host of improvements as well.
Ok fair enough. If Edge improves the current map in some way then yes, they can say they are giving us something for free. I can't argue with that. But hyping it feels really disingenuous. It's basically an update to something I already have. Doggedly telling me the update to my map is free is just off-putting in some way, and I am a fanboy! I mean it better make the Caucasus look fabulous, because if it just marginally improves the look of it, man I can hear it now.. Just seems like a zero sum way to go about the communication.
I think they would be better served by just staying away from the free tease. Just causes problems. The people you are placating with the word free are never happy anyway. I would rather hear them say 'We built Edge to take the game to the next level and the new maps will showcase this, and this is how much they cost. Then let the players discover that, hey, not only are the new maps cool but the old one looks great too! Winning in both directions.
Everybody gets everything they want. I wanted a mission. And for my sins..they gave me one.
I stopped buying modules because not so much cost or unwilling to support it, but like Arma 3 you can only have so much and need to learn so much as well... So the Hornet and Super Hornets will definitely be bought as well as the Hawk of course. But I just don't have the care for the WWII planes or even the helos anymore.