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This comment alone is enough to demonstrate that either:

1. You don't know the slightest thing about games development
2. You like to talk in superlatives and take the most extreme position just to get a reaction
3. Both of the above

I'm sure it doesn't matter much to you, but your opinions and perspectives have significantly more weight and value if they appear to be objective and grounded in some sort of reality.

The moment you start talking in extremist absolutes, it just becomes annoying noise with no practical value.



As grossly disappointed as I am in BoS, I'll totally take that bet. This isn't going to kill them and they'll still be fully functional in 12 months time.

Let's assume any modders would suffer under the same lack of access to the source code. Then explain how you think they'd be able to fix the sound-bubble problem (hard-coded third-party sound-engine), the cannon-round flash being rendered tens of feet behind its impact-point, the total absence of complex systems to be damaged in the a/c models, the hard-coded FMs, based upon some sort of mathematical formulae. Superlatives? Extremist absolutes? I think not. You can't take a Trabant and turn it into a Porsche.

Superlatives? Extremist absolutes? I think not. You can't take a Trabant and turn it into a Porsche.

Access to the source code is something different. I assumed when you said that "no amount of love from Team Fusion could fix BoS" that you were saying that it was a fundamentally unsalvageable train wreck. My point was that that's clearly not the case. There's a lot of good stuff in BoS that a determined team could absolutely drive into a good place.



See above.

I think there's no reason at all that BoS couldn't evolve from its current state into something really excellent. A lot of people (myself included) enjoy the actual flying, the combat and the visuals in BoS - we're just looking for a compelling wrapper. Your position, on the other hand, seems to be that it's only viable as a sim if everything is modeled to a DCS level of fidelity. As much as I love the DCS series (it's very much my sim of choice), it's not the only route to success or the only way of having an enjoyable flight sim experience.

That may be a critical deciding factor for you, and that's fine, but it doesn't make sense to use that as the basis of your conclusion that the whole endeavour is a train wreck that will be forgotten about in 6 months and bring about the demise of the company. That's a very extremist position that assumes that everyone judges flight sims by the same criteria that you do, which is not a very defensible position.

Additionally, it appears from the outside that you're excited/happy about the idea of companies, projects and people disappearing without trace because you feel let down by RoF, BoS, CloD and so on. That, to me, seems like a very extremist position to take when we're just talking about the merits of a video game.

My point is just that engaging in personal attacks, wishing people ill and completely writing off a game that is in many ways actually pretty good doesn't make it seem like you're coming from a place of intelligent, considered and rational discourse.

Excellent post, Pizzicato.

Excellent post, Pizzicato.

Dear WernerVoss,

We have all heard your opinions. While a lot of them has merit, you only listen at half of what other posters have to say and keep on hammering on about things that are not relevant to this sim. This was never going to be the "most realistic online squad sim" if you read the dev blogs. It is however a lot of things and the big plus is that the current developer (forget about modders for now) acknowledges that things are wrong and they have indicated that they will be spending effort in the next 6 to 12 months to fix some of them. This developer also asked for suggestions and contributions.

Now instead of venting yourself out here, please consider compiling a list of the most serious issues and submitting them to the developer instead. That way your concerns are heard by someone that cares and can actually make a difference.

I don't believe you are wrong, but your posts are sweeping/immature/tiring and your energy can be spent in a more constructive way. Please make that list and send it to the developer. If you don't want to then fine, but please stop posting about it here.

(yawn)

One other factor that the future of BOS is dependent on, and I'd say it's probably dependency #1, is future sales.