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That is terrible and I hope whatever is affecting his life gets sorted out
That being said there are many many companies out in the world that can do translations of manuals for you
The user manuals for the software company I work for are translated into about 32 different language versions
for the various different markets the product is sold in
Well sounds like your company might be quite bigger than BST, so that probably isnt an option for them... we will survive a little longer waiting on the manuals...
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That is terrible and I hope whatever is affecting his life gets sorted out
That being said there are many many companies out in the world that can do translations of manuals for you
The user manuals for the software company I work for are translated into about 32 different language versions
for the various different markets the product is sold in
Well sounds like your company might be quite bigger than BST, so that probably isnt an option for them... we will survive a little longer waiting on the manuals... Do tell , how many people work at Betasimtek ?
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Not enough for your liking apparently.....
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Cool Aid team ......... ASSEMBLE
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Your company supplies 32 different languages... BST does not... logically it sounds like you have a bigger team or bigger market... That is terrible and I hope whatever is affecting his life gets sorted out
That being said there are many many companies out in the world that can do translations of manuals for you
The user manuals for the software company I work for are translated into about 32 different language versions
for the various different markets the product is sold in
Well sounds like your company might be quite bigger than BST, so that probably isnt an option for them... we will survive a little longer waiting on the manuals... Do tell , how many people work at Betasimtek ?
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Either way Betasimtek (that's far too good) now has a reputation, and I don't think it's a good one.
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Your company supplies 32 different languages... BST does not... logically it sounds like you have a bigger team or bigger market... That is terrible and I hope whatever is affecting his life gets sorted out
That being said there are many many companies out in the world that can do translations of manuals for you
The user manuals for the software company I work for are translated into about 32 different language versions
for the various different markets the product is sold in
Well sounds like your company might be quite bigger than BST, so that probably isnt an option for them... we will survive a little longer waiting on the manuals... Do tell , how many people work at Betasimtek ? The market is the same size as theirs ... Planet earth So how many are in the software team ? we have 6 and one guy who handles marketing / manuals etc
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Either way Betasimtek (that's far too good) now has a reputation, and I don't think it's a good one. Sorry guys, I just thought I would share that the team has some external issues they are dealing with, I didnt want this to turn into a hating on BST thread... *sigh* Not sure why I bother....
The market is the same size as theirs ... Planet earth
The market for high fidelity Helicopter simulations is quite small... but I know what you are doing, so this is my last response to you, have a great day.
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I am sorry that one of the team is having personal issues , really I am (I hope he/she gets better soon)
I just thought that, if people want to play a study sim a manual is pretty important
If the person who normally does this is unable to, then get a temp in , or out source the task
Speaking for myself , having criticism for how something is done != hate
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Speaking for myself , having criticism for how something is done != hate
It is when its all someone offers. So final answer... they will get done, they are just delayed.
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Sorry guys, I just thought I would share that the team has some external issues they are dealing with, I didnt want this to turn into a hating on BST thread... *sigh* Not sure why I bother....
I don't think anybody is hating on them, they're just seeing it how it is. People expect a manual for a product like this and when they don't get one they want to know why. When they're not explicitly told why they're going to feel resentment. The reputation is earned regardless of the circumstance because Betasimtek still dropped the ball. Why it happened doesn't matter to me. What does matter to me is that things improve. If nobody speaks up and everybody makes excuses, they've no reason to improve other than a sense of self. I'm not going touch the Sabre for a variety of reasons (mostly personal), but one of the more minor ones is that I'm not going to purchase another product until I'm satisfied with the previous one. If I had an Mi-8 manual that wouldn't be an issue. I still wouldn't buy the Sabre just yet, but it wouldn't be because I was dissatisfied with Betasimtek. I think they'll get it sorted though. I wish them the best because it's clear that they want to deliver a quality service.
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I'll wait until the F-86 is actually released and evaluate again then but it looks like a nice module so far.
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In my personal notebook Belsimtek has a VERY good reputation.
Beside I'm way too manly to read manuals.
J/K but so far the quick start manual gave me all the basic principles to fly the Mi8 and have fun with it.
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I myself complained on the ED boards about how the choppers still have no thermal engine damage model, and Wags' response was that they're working on it, but it takes longer than originally anticipated. So that's at least ONE (1) thing explained without any ifs and buts whatsoever.
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Either way Betasimtek (that's far too good) now has a reputation, and I don't think it's a good one. Really? I'm anything but on the "Kool Aid team" for DCS, but I gotta admit, BST are the best guys involved with DCS right now. As far as Beta matters go, all I can say is that they currently have 3 (3 1/2 if we count the F-15C AFM) modules out. The Huey, which they clearly stated was Beta until recently, and all that's missing is engine temperature and MP crew, the latter being something they can't do anything about. The Mi-8, well sure, it's been like this for a while, but I'm guessing they spent a lot on the Huey to get that finished.
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Cool Aid team ......... ASSEMBLE Wasn't acting this way already been stated by someone at SimHQ Staff as being dis-respectful? Company Roster size is none of your business. BST Stated their case already, they should not have to divulge every little piece of info you want, just because you asked for it. Grow Up, F-86F is in Open Beta, Not Gold/Final Release; Functions, Manuals, Systems, Livery Templates, are being worked on. PS You Mis-spelled Kool-Aid. And if you don't like the Kool-Aid, Stay out of the fridge.
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Cool Aid team ......... ASSEMBLE Wasn't acting this way already been stated by someone at SimHQ Staff as being dis-respectful? Company Roster size is none of your business. BST Stated their case already, they should not have to divulge every little piece of info you want, just because you asked for it. Grow Up, F-86F is in Open Beta, Not Gold/Final Release; Functions, Manuals, Systems, Livery Templates, are being worked on. PS You Mis-spelled Kool-Aid. And if you don't like the Kool-Aid, Stay out of the fridge. I wasn't the one who brought up the size of dev teams vs getting translations done Belasimtek , have not released a full manual for MI-8 due to staffing issues , I was just suggesting 2 possible methods to work around this problem 1. Get a temp in to help 2. Out source the translation somewhere Thanks for correcting my spelling mistake , cheers
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In my personal notebook Belsimtek has a VERY good reputation.
They are producing good products. They just need to finish one before starting 3-4 other projects. 
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Cool Aid team ......... ASSEMBLE Sigh. Here we go again with the childish, playground insults and insinuations.  You're clearly a smart guy and you have a lot of valid points that I actually agree with, but this constant passive-aggressive nonsense is incredibly grating. If your goal is to troll the boards, making them a frustrating and unpleasant place to hang out - congratulations, it's working. At least with me. If not, please do us all a favour and lay off the snide insults whenever someone comes to the table with a positive perspective. Your points are genuinely worth listening to, but only if you're capable of presenting them like a grown up.
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