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Cat #3721436 01/20/13 08:04 AM
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A few bugs.

If you play the ZSU-23-4, and then play a different system, SA-2E/F, SA-3, SA-4 or SA-5, the range of the other SAM systems cannot be set over 15km. You have to completely exit and restart the programme to be able to go over 15km again.

Pause doesn't work on the ZSU-23-4, aircraft still move.

And there's an error in the manual on page 35. It says "get it into automatic angle tracking, by clicking with the left mouse button". But the left doesn't do that, it's the right mouse button that goes into automatic tracking.

I already posted the last two bugs in the ZSU-23-4 forum. Hope it isn't a problem to repost them here. Bug number 1, I've only posted here.

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Originally Posted By: Mdore
A few bugs.

If you play the ZSU-23-4, and then play a different system, SA-2E/F, SA-3, SA-4 or SA-5, the range of the other SAM systems cannot be set over 15km. You have to completely exit and restart the programme to be able to go over 15km again.

Pause doesn't work on the ZSU-23-4, aircraft still move.

And there's an error in the manual on page 35. It says "get it into automatic angle tracking, by clicking with the left mouse button". But the left doesn't do that, it's the right mouse button that goes into automatic tracking.

I already posted the last two bugs in the ZSU-23-4 forum. Hope it isn't a problem to repost them here. Bug number 1, I've only posted here.


Thank you for the bug finding.

SAMSIM-926B patch can be downloaded from here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?1d28hcpmr779de0
Just replace the "sam.exe" file with this.

Corrected:
- Pause issue
- Range issue with other systems

New feature
- In Dr�gelypal�nk, the Meteor-1s are arriving from two direction, randomly.


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More possible bugs.

In practice "Hungary", I can't enter automatic range tracking. I can automatically track the target's angle, but I can't track the target's range. It just will not lock on.

I only tried with some of the possible aircraft, the 737, Cessna and one of the military jets. None of them could be locked on in range.


It will track range! But only if the aircraft is set to fly at low altitude, not if the aircraft is at high altitude like the default setting for the Hungary practice aircraft. It will lock against an aircraft at 2,500m, but not one at 5,000m. So it might not be a bug. Is this on purpose?

Also, some of the aircraft sometimes are given the name "meteor-1" in the after action report.

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Two mistypes in manual for ZSU:
page 25 title hIdraulical instead of hYdraulical
page 35 get into automatic angle tracking, by clicking with the LEFT mouse button - should be RIGHT

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And one thing yet (maybe I have not read manual correctly) - when the target is destroyed (radar switched back to search mode) and even i switch off and back on ZU mode, the JEST DANNYE is still lit but fire cannot be opened when fire mode is set to SRP. Maybe it is normal behavior because of mechanical SRP but it is confusing a bit.

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Originally Posted By: Mdore
More possible bugs.

In practice "Hungary", I can't enter automatic range tracking. I can automatically track the target's angle, but I can't track the target's range. It just will not lock on.

I only tried with some of the possible aircraft, the 737, Cessna and one of the military jets. None of them could be locked on in range.


It will track range! But only if the aircraft is set to fly at low altitude, not if the aircraft is at high altitude like the default setting for the Hungary practice aircraft. It will lock against an aircraft at 2,500m, but not one at 5,000m. So it might not be a bug. Is this on purpose?

Also, some of the aircraft sometimes are given the name "meteor-1" in the after action report.


I was perfectly capable of tracking this B-747 flying at 4400m.





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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Two mistypes in manual for ZSU:
page 25 title hIdraulical instead of hYdraulical
page 35 get into automatic angle tracking, by clicking with the LEFT mouse button - should be RIGHT


I will correct it.


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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
And one thing yet (maybe I have not read manual correctly) - when the target is destroyed (radar switched back to search mode) and even i switch off and back on ZU mode, the JEST DANNYE is still lit but fire cannot be opened when fire mode is set to SRP. Maybe it is normal behavior because of mechanical SRP but it is confusing a bit.


Est Dannie will allow fire without the radar tracking anything also.

SRP only blocks the firing:
- if the Tu is not between 5,5 ... 0,2
- if the target is flying over 1500m
- if it is allowed to block it


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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Originally Posted By: Mdore
More possible bugs.

In practice "Hungary", I can't enter automatic range tracking. I can automatically track the target's angle, but I can't track the target's range. It just will not lock on.

I only tried with some of the possible aircraft, the 737, Cessna and one of the military jets. None of them could be locked on in range.


It will track range! But only if the aircraft is set to fly at low altitude, not if the aircraft is at high altitude like the default setting for the Hungary practice aircraft. It will lock against an aircraft at 2,500m, but not one at 5,000m. So it might not be a bug. Is this on purpose?

Also, some of the aircraft sometimes are given the name "meteor-1" in the after action report.


I was perfectly capable of tracking this B-747 flying at 4400m.


I don't know what is happening. Today I can track the B-747 and B-737 in two tests I did. But couldn't track a Cessna. I recorded a video of the Cessna.



I click once, twice, three times, or a thousand times. It doesn't lock. Am I doing something wrong?

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Originally Posted By: Mdore
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Originally Posted By: Mdore
More possible bugs.

In practice "Hungary", I can't enter automatic range tracking. I can automatically track the target's angle, but I can't track the target's range. It just will not lock on.

I only tried with some of the possible aircraft, the 737, Cessna and one of the military jets. None of them could be locked on in range.


It will track range! But only if the aircraft is set to fly at low altitude, not if the aircraft is at high altitude like the default setting for the Hungary practice aircraft. It will lock against an aircraft at 2,500m, but not one at 5,000m. So it might not be a bug. Is this on purpose?

Also, some of the aircraft sometimes are given the name "meteor-1" in the after action report.


I was perfectly capable of tracking this B-747 flying at 4400m.


I don't know what is happening. Today I can track the B-747 and B-737 in two tests I did. But couldn't track a Cessna. I recorded a video of the Cessna.

Click to reveal..


I click once, twice, three times, or a thousand times. It doesn't lock. Am I doing something wrong?


Thank you for this video, it helped a lot finding this bug.
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As it affects only few positions, so the fix will be included in the next version.
(I wait a little bit to collect more bugs)


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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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Hpasp, in the Shilka manual on 28 page it state "When the required electrical power for the SRP operation is available, a yellow (1) lamp will illuminate." But in the sim it will illuminate only after you switch POWER switch to on. I don't know is this a bug in the sim, error in the manual or it should be like that?
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Originally Posted By: Markan
Hpasp, in the Shilka manual on 28 page it state "When the required electrical power for the SRP operation is available, a yellow (1) lamp will illuminate." But in the sim it will illuminate only after you switch POWER switch to on. I don't know is this a bug in the sim, error in the manual or it should be like that?
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Its a bug in the software, I will fix it.
That lamp shows that the required Voltages are available to switch on the SRP.


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A bug:
Click to reveal..
Practice target:
Meteor-1
Meteor-1
Meteor-1
Meteor-1
Meteor-1

ZSU-23-4V1



00:02:22 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1542m
Target azimuth: 234�
Target elevation: 6�
Tu: 2.5s

00:02:23 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 68pcs.


00:02:24 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:02:25 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1508m
Target azimuth: 233�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:02:25 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:02:25 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:02:26 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:02:26 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:02:26 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 108pcs.



00:04:15 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1958m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.6s

00:04:15 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 124pcs.



00:04:15 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1950m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.5s

00:04:16 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 140pcs.



00:04:17 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1937m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.5s

00:04:17 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 172pcs.


00:04:21 Practice target Meteor-1 hit by BZT.


00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1810m
Target azimuth: 235�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 192pcs.



00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1807m
Target azimuth: 235�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.1s

00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 208pcs.



00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1802m
Target azimuth: 235�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.1s

00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 220pcs.



00:04:30 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1794m
Target azimuth: 235�
Target elevation: 5�
Tu: 3.1s

00:04:31 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 264pcs.



00:04:52 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1527m
Target azimuth: 229�
Target elevation: 5�
Tu: 2.4s

00:04:54 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 348pcs.


00:04:55 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:04:55 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:04:56 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1499m
Target azimuth: 229�
Target elevation: 5�
Tu: 2.4s

00:04:56 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:04:56 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 372pcs.



00:06:39 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1519m
Target azimuth: 207�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:06:40 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 460pcs.


00:06:41 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:06:42 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:06:42 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:06:43 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:06:55 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1480m
Target azimuth: 209�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:06:55 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 472pcs.



00:06:59 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1480m
Target azimuth: 209�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:06:59 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 484pcs.



00:07:00 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1480m
Target azimuth: 209�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:07:00 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 496pcs.



00:07:03 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1480m
Target azimuth: 209�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:07:03 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 508pcs.


+++++++++++++++++
00:08:03, SNR ON AIR



00:08:07 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1663m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 2.8s

00:08:07 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 520pcs.



00:08:08 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1651m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 2.7s

00:08:08 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 536pcs.


00:08:10 Practice target Meteor-1 hit by BZT.


00:08:11 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1597m
Target azimuth: 237�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 2.6s

00:08:13 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 596pcs.



00:08:22 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1439m
Target azimuth: 233�
Target elevation: 5�
Tu: 2.2s

00:08:24 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 672pcs.


00:08:25 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:08:25 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:10:08 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1852m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:11 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 812pcs.


00:10:12 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:10:13 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:10:14 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:10:14 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:10:42 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:42 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 820pcs.



00:10:42 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:42 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 828pcs.



00:10:43 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:43 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 836pcs.



00:10:43 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:44 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 844pcs.



00:10:44 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:44 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 848pcs.



00:10:45 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:45 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 852pcs.



00:10:45 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:45 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 856pcs.



00:10:46 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:46 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 864pcs.



00:10:56 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:56 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 872pcs.



00:10:57 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:57 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 880p
cs.


Total, SNR On Air Time: 5min 37sec



Watching video of Faroukh, I haven't see the "ZU" red light to goes on on my "Shilka"...I was able to shoot even when target was killed, (that's where 1800 m shots come, I think..).

Oh, and a suggestion - as "Shilka has a small range, why we using big scale ploating boards?

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A bug:
Click to reveal..
Practice target:
Meteor-1
Meteor-1
Meteor-1
Meteor-1
Meteor-1

ZSU-23-4V1



00:02:22 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1542m
Target azimuth: 234�
Target elevation: 6�
Tu: 2.5s

00:02:23 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 68pcs.


00:02:24 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:02:25 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1508m
Target azimuth: 233�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:02:25 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:02:25 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:02:26 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:02:26 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:02:26 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 108pcs.



00:04:15 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1958m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.6s

00:04:15 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 124pcs.



00:04:15 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1950m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.5s

00:04:16 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 140pcs.



00:04:17 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1937m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.5s

00:04:17 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 172pcs.


00:04:21 Practice target Meteor-1 hit by BZT.


00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1810m
Target azimuth: 235�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 192pcs.



00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1807m
Target azimuth: 235�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.1s

00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 208pcs.



00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1802m
Target azimuth: 235�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.1s

00:04:29 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 220pcs.



00:04:30 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1794m
Target azimuth: 235�
Target elevation: 5�
Tu: 3.1s

00:04:31 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 264pcs.



00:04:52 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1527m
Target azimuth: 229�
Target elevation: 5�
Tu: 2.4s

00:04:54 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 348pcs.


00:04:55 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:04:55 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:04:56 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1499m
Target azimuth: 229�
Target elevation: 5�
Tu: 2.4s

00:04:56 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:04:56 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 372pcs.



00:06:39 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1519m
Target azimuth: 207�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:06:40 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 460pcs.


00:06:41 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:06:42 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:06:42 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:06:43 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:06:55 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1480m
Target azimuth: 209�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:06:55 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 472pcs.



00:06:59 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1480m
Target azimuth: 209�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:06:59 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 484pcs.



00:07:00 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1480m
Target azimuth: 209�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:07:00 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 496pcs.



00:07:03 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1480m
Target azimuth: 209�
Target elevation: 7�
Tu: 2.4s

00:07:03 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 508pcs.


+++++++++++++++++
00:08:03, SNR ON AIR



00:08:07 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1663m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 2.8s

00:08:07 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 520pcs.



00:08:08 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1651m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 2.7s

00:08:08 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 536pcs.


00:08:10 Practice target Meteor-1 hit by BZT.


00:08:11 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1597m
Target azimuth: 237�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 2.6s

00:08:13 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 596pcs.



00:08:22 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1439m
Target azimuth: 233�
Target elevation: 5�
Tu: 2.2s

00:08:24 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 672pcs.


00:08:25 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:08:25 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:10:08 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1852m
Target azimuth: 239�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:11 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 812pcs.


00:10:12 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:10:13 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:10:14 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.

00:10:14 Practice target Meteor-1 killed by OFZT.


00:10:42 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:42 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 820pcs.



00:10:42 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:42 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 828pcs.



00:10:43 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:43 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 836pcs.



00:10:43 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:44 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 844pcs.



00:10:44 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:44 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 848pcs.



00:10:45 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:45 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 852pcs.



00:10:45 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:45 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 856pcs.



00:10:46 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:46 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 864pcs.



00:10:56 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:56 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 872pcs.



00:10:57 ZSU-23-4V1 opened fire by all tubes.
Target distance: 1800m
Target azimuth: 238�
Target elevation: 4�
Tu: 3.2s

00:10:57 ZSU-23-4V1 closed fire, and shot 880p
cs.


Total, SNR On Air Time: 5min 37sec



Watching video of Faroukh, I haven't see the "ZU" red light to goes on on my "Shilka"...I was able to shoot even when target was killed, (that's where 1800 m shots come, I think..).

Oh, and a suggestion - as "Shilka has a small range, why we using big scale ploating boards?


As far as I know, the PU-12 used the generic air picture generated by the Army level radio technical troops.
They worked on large scale, and not transmitted PU12 location specific information over the telecode channel.
Good sites about the PU12
http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/23991
http://www.flak11.de/PU12Start.htm
http://www.rwd-mb3.de/pages/pu12.htm

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How about AAR (bolded paragraph)? I didn't shoot so much... nope

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So are you saying that it recorded bursts you didn't take, or discussing how many rounds expended?

Each of those bolded bursts is only 1-2 rounds (unless I missed one that was significantly longer) per tube, which is about the minimum possible to fire, if the number of bursts made is correct.

The shots fired is a cumulative number, not a "rounds in the burst" count.

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Originally Posted By: Lieste
So are you saying that it recorded bursts you didn't take, or discussing how many rounds expended?

Each of those bolded bursts is only 1-2 rounds (unless I missed one that was significantly longer) per tube, which is about the minimum possible to fire, if the number of bursts made is correct.

The shots fired is a cumulative number, not a "rounds in the burst" count.


i killed one target from 2100m with one personal burst !
when u push the space for 1 second... shilka can fire in this period time around 55 bullets!
i guess best burst for shilka , push space for 1 or 1.5 second (55 till 70) bullets per each firing !


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Piston fired 12 bursts against the targets engaged. Of these only 8 were longer than 10 rounds per barrel, which I'd think was a reasonable minimum length for an engagement. 6 were only 3 rounds per barrel.

After engaging the targets he then expended (the bolded section) 17 rounds per barrel (around one second firing), in 10 bursts. These being one or two rounds per burst, sometimes twice in one second.

If this matches what was done, then there is no problem.

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Originally Posted By: piston79
How about AAR (bolded paragraph)? I didn't shoot so much... nope


That is a bug, that will be also corrected.
The intention was to show the bullet count of each burst.


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Originally Posted By: Lieste
After engaging the targets he then expended (the bolded section) 17 rounds per barrel (around one second firing), in 10 bursts. These being one or two rounds per burst, sometimes twice in one second.

If this matches what was done, then there is no problem.


Yes I had some bursts after killing the target, but not so many!!! Thanks for explanation about cumulative counting, dear Lieste, I didn't figure it out .... screwy

Dear Hpasp, do you need the 3D AAR about that case or you solve that bug completely?

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