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It was very much rubbish up to the sound patch, after that it ran pretty good on my system and the "choose trees or sound bug" was fixed, but then they broke the code with the patch after that and the CTDs started.
CLOD is still moments of genius mixed with moments of WTF were they thinking! for me.
I hope CLOD eventually turns into what we all want it to be, but i just cant see it ever being what Oleg(or me) dreamed of, which is such a pity.
Though people here still tell me it will and i really really hope they are right and im wrong.

I have lots of meaningful conversations with people who "voice concerns about the playability". I do that myself very often.

However, saying that it is "complete rubbish of an early alpha we have to this day" is not "voicing concerns". It is just useless slagging.

And what are your opinions about playability btw? - Didn't you say that you shelved the sim as unplayable just after you got it a year ago? What do you know about its playability then, now, a year later?

Pfff...

Well, the last time I cranked CloD up...was in December.
What's changed about it since then Frey?

I have fired it up after patches to see whats changed. Maybe you can enlighten me what fixes they have done for the offline player since launch?

That is just the typical useless argumenting, ignore the game as a whole thing and concentrate on the niche where it is still lagging behind.

But slagging the game as if the offline part were the most important feature, afaik it isn't, and the game as a whole is definitely not in a alpha - state!

Now, you listen here: 'e's not the Messiah, 'e's a very naughty boy! Now, go away!



Edit: Can't resist. A funny story about that exact clip Frey. If you don't know (and forgive me if you do) but the old guy at the end is a comedian called Spike Milligan - one of my favorite UK writers/comedy guys of all time. The Python team told him he had a 'good part' in the movie and made he memorize a big 'shoe prophecy' story from a script. They flew him out to Tunisia where Life of Brian was being filmed and made him rehearse this long intricate 10 minute spiel for his only scene. They then secretly told the extras and the rest of the people in that scene to run off at the end, leaving poor Spike confused - he handled it well. Makes me smile every time I see it

well i would disagree with that part- so would Oleg

from here
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=6494

Flight sims tend to have a split 80% / 20% in offline/online users.
So what it comes down to is:- are 80% of customers unimportant?

Blolox, what dont you understand about "unfinished" "WIP" "You dont have any patence"? <--------------------------------------------------------------- Sarcasm, i got banned for that once.


The single player was almost criminal in its patheticy-ness (i made a word!) but as we were told at release, dont worry the SDK is coming "real soon" and the community will have lots of fantastic missions and campaigns to play.
Until they add the module where i can enter a pilots name and join a Sqd, i cant ever see that happening and Luthier seems to have go the way of Oleg and cant be found to ask if that will ever be added.

I didn't know, that's very cool. So that is why the scene is so convincing.

+1 What bolox said. Oleg has always said the single player is what sells units and not so much the online modes. But if you still stand by your statement robtek: If the 40 to 60 people that fly on ATAG represent the majority of flyers that are happy with the sim, I'd say it's in real trouble...wouldn't you? (not actually expecting a response from robtek, he usually just drops in quickly and then disapears)

Yeah, he was great - died in 2002. At his request his gravestone has the inscription

'I told you I was ill!'

That's some very interesting background information Fearless, gives me a new appreciation for that scene. I like the way he clenched and unclenched his hands and then exit stage right. lol

Yep, i have a fulfilled life beside reading and writing in forums

Of course i stand with my position, online is the present and the future.

This quote from Oleg stems from a time when online gaming was something special and quite a lot people had only a dial-in connection, if any at all.

And yes, there are not many online players right now, as most dont play until the ctd bug is fixed, but iirc there where a few thousand already on the atag server at least once.

So, those 40 to 60 people on ATAG are just those who are making the best of it and have fun with what they have, instead of doing other, less sensible things.

And just to be correct, i DONT say that offline is not important, it is just not the most important part of the sim.

I know several squads that play very regularly on closed servers.

Actualy m8, for me, offline IS the most important part of the sim. and it's a pretty poor experience right now.

Regards

Aces

December 29th 2010 is when everyone had dial up or no internet at all huh? Thats the interview where he made that statement. Of those "few thousand" on ATAG, many like myself have never returned, just went on briefly to see the multi interface. If airquake is the way of the present and the future that's sad. I would say offline is most important and when done properly gives a sense of immersion that you can't get online. Kill board, rank, medals etc.

I've flown on ATAG numerous times and would never consider it to be airquake. With the cockpit view only combat is very, very difficult and very immersive. And this is where I'd prefer the immersion to be, while flying, not after the fact.

It's the whole package I'm talking about Bish. Caring about squadmates, and when they die, their dead...your not flying with them again an hour later. You know you can fly cockpit only view in single player, right?

Doing what? because its not a online war.

Roger that Force