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Hpasp #3512750 02/06/12 05:39 PM
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Thank Hpasp!

Video just fine , so if this was a simulator like this video.

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It's just super that someone delves into the details.

Thank you for this Piston79 Analysis of Dvina !

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Guys, let's hunt it!

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13:45 19th of December, 1972.
SR-71 bomb damage assessment flight number one.

SA-75M Dvina


41:35, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 35km
Target azimuth: 182�
Target elevation: 18�
Target altitude: 11,1km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


41:41, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 35km
Target azimuth: 181�
Target elevation: 19�
Target altitude: 11,9km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


41:49, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 35km
Target azimuth: 180�
Target elevation: 21�
Target altitude: 13km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


42:37, Missile exploded on Channel-3
SR-71 Habu hit by SAM. (miss distance: 227m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 2min 31sec



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Nice shot there Piston! Despite that SR-71 wasn't shot down, hitting it was nevertheless a great feat thumbsup

Maybe next time you will manage to hit a missile at a distance less than 100 meters and thus shooting it down.

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Simply Super piston 79!

Piston 79 at all expert on shooting, I think.

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Just use SINE function to find out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine

Target distance: 34km
Target elevation: 18�
Target altitude: 10,6km


Target real altitude - 24.0 km
sin 18� = 0.309016994
10.6/34 = 0.3117647

if take sin - 24.0/0.309016994 = 77.665 km
if take altitude/distance - 24.0/0.3117647 = 76.98 km
Which is real, God knows... wink
(in fact we should use data from third launch, but anyway, still have a difference)

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Yes it's true I do so determined by the height / distance

Piston79 just super!

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Here I am playing Dvina found something else interesting.

At the test site Ashuluk simulation EA-6 showing the height of the target for H = 1200 m

But in the simulator showing the height of 5 km as possible?




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Some addition of "hacking method K"...

This guidance method is simply UPR, just adding a Constant "K" into elevation, depending the distance of the missile to the range boresight.

If the missile - boresight distance is larger than 10km, it adds 1.2 degree to the elevation boresight.
From 10km, it gradually reduces this Constant to 0 degree. (at 5km it is 0.6 degree)

So if you want to add 0.6degree elevation at the impact point, to compensate the missile overload capability limitation, than just move the range boresight to the calculated impact distance plus 5km.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Here I am playing Dvina found something else interesting.
At the test site Ashuluk simulation EA-6 showing the height of the target for H = 1200 m
But in the simulator showing the height of 5 km as possible?


It should fly at 5km altitude.
I will correct the label.
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Warning, please practice strict emission control...
... or you will face this:

Quote:
2:00am 15th of April, 1986.
Operation El-Dorado Canyon raid against Benghazi.

Targets:
Jamahiriyah barracks - 6 A-6E Intruder (VA-34 Blue Blasters from the CV-66 USS America)
Benghazi AFB - 6 A-6E Intruder (VA-34 Blue Blasters from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)

Supporting force:
8 SEAD F/A-18A Hornet (VMFA-314 Black Knights, VMFA-323 Death Rattlers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
2 SEAD A-7E Corsair-II (VA-46 Clansmen, VA-72 Blue Hawks from the CV-66 USS America)
6 CAP F/A-18A Hornet (VFA-131 Wildcats, VFA-132 Privateers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
3 ECM EA-6B Prowler (VAQ-135 Rooks, VMAQ-2 Playboys from both carriers)
1 SIGINT EA-3B Skywarrior (VQ-2 Sandeman from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
2 AWACS E-2C Hawkeye (VAW-127 Seabats from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)

S-75M3 Volkhov


00:03:29, A-7E Corsair-II, VA-46 Clansmen launched AGM-88 HARM missile.


00:03:42, SNR knocked out by HARM.


Total, SNR On Air Time: 28sec


Shooting the Habu with Dvina will bee seen as easy money...
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Last edited by Hpasp; 02/07/12 04:59 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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hi!



may be some best HABU SR-71 site

Be careful max2012, habu may make you sick dizzy .. then you need doctor .. stirthepot in this snowy weather .. darkcloud

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this question for Hpasp!

when using Narrow beam, in volhov, and using sector search,
exactly how many degree scan the beam in vertical and in horizontal move,
it seems no more than 5�, true ?

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I do not understand why the warning!

When still no "Operation El Dorado Canyon," and do not know when it will do.

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I do not understand why the caution!

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Hahahaaa!!! "Blackbird" for dinner!


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13:45 19th of December, 1972.
SR-71 bomb damage assessment flight number one.

SA-75M Dvina


33:51, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 76km
Target azimuth: 182�
Target elevation: 18�
Target altitude: 24,2km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


33:57, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 76km
Target azimuth: 181�
Target elevation: 19�
Target altitude: 26km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


34:05, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 76km
Target azimuth: 180�
Target elevation: 21�
Target altitude: 28,5km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


34:45, Missile exploded on Channel-1
SR-71 Habu hit by SAM. (miss distance: 144m)

34:53, Missile exploded on Channel-3
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 42m)

39:03, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 9km
Target azimuth: 282�
Target elevation: 60�
Target altitude: 8,6km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


39:14, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 9km
Target azimuth: 282�
Target elevation: 57�
Target altitude: 7,6km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


39:19, Missile exploded on Channel-1
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 3m)

39:26, V-750VMVK 11DMVK Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 8km
Target azimuth: 282�
Target elevation: 53�
Target altitude: 6,5km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


39:29, Missile exploded on Channel-2
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 26m)

39:40, Missile exploded on Channel-3
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 5min 5sec
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Some addition of "hacking method K"...

This guidance method is simply UPR, just adding a Constant "K" into elevation, depending the distance of the missile to the range boresight.

If the missile - boresight distance is larger than 10km, it adds 1.2 degree to the elevation boresight.
From 10km, it gradually reduces this Constant to 0 degree. (at 5km it is 0.6 degree)


This is important information, thank you! thumbsup
Seems that in ver. 923.0, in jamming enviroment, K became like T/T with 1.2 degrees, and UPR is just like T/T. Still they react on distance boresight. If UPR is based on real target speed, and not angular speed of the target against SNR,I believe that UPR/K behavior in 923.3 is WRONG due to denial of speed and parameter information due to active jaming and must be corrected.

Last edited by piston79; 02/07/12 07:24 PM. Reason: ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
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this question for Hpasp!
when using Narrow beam, in volhov, and using sector search,
exactly how many degree scan the beam in vertical and in horizontal move,
it seems no more than 5�, true ?


That is a special target search method, developed against stealth targets.
(As far as I remember, it was not discussed before.)
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This method is called "Elliptical Search", and by using it, you can search a 5�x 5� area with the increased power output of the Narrow Beam.
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Last edited by Hpasp; 02/08/12 07:35 AM.

Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Hahahaaa!!! "Blackbird" for dinner!

Congratulation!
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(I think, that the second salvo was against the Geneva Convention...)


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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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