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jfloren #3402374 10/03/11 10:51 AM
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Isn't the F-35 carrier capable?

But I'd give my vote to F-18. Seems pretty logical. Not obvious, not right, just logical.


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We probably won't get an F-35C for at least a decade. :p

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Originally Posted By: NPOSuperhornet
We probably won't get an F-35C for at least a decade. :p


Aaaaaand I�d consider us lucky for that...


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Originally Posted By: LawnDartLeo
Although I for one would love a good Tomcat... the F-14 has sailed into retirement. Let virtual time move on and go with an F/A-18 Echo or Foxtrot. It's a workhorse platform that while not ideally suited for air to air would provide some great mission diversity in all aspects of combat deployment.


WWI and WWII are long gone, but I don't see that fact stopping those flight sims from being made. While I'm afraid that the DCS series is going this way, it shouldn't be automatically assumed that it's everyone's preference.

I for one couldn't care less about the Super Hornet and all its advanced systems and weapons which make you spend more time flipping switches while flying high on autopilot than actually piloting the damn thing (though, I have to admit that it sounds like I just described flying the F-14B wink ).


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The hornet makes the most sense with these new ship pics.

F-16 a close second.

F-15e would be cool but DCS has never done a back seat sim before, not sure if they are ready to break new ground with an AI crew member. It has to be done sometime, because it has been said that the next helo version maybe an AH-64A.

Get over the F-14 suggestion, it's never gonna happen.

I don't care what dcs chooses to do personally, as long as it's an AC capable of launching HARMs for proper SEAD missions to coordinate with the A-10s in MP. I'm pretty sure this is the number one motive for the next aircraft. A year from now, you will login to an MP server and choose to fly a ka50, A-10c, or a multi-role F/A aircraft in one big coop mission.

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Well the F-18C is still in use with the USMC... and several other nations still use that variant, correct?


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Originally Posted By: LawnDartLeo
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...and a possible F-14B mod in the future


Although I for one would love a good Tomcat... the F-14 has sailed into retirement.


So has the P51, F86, A4, F4, etc, etc, etc.
Doesn't mean they don't make great subjects for sims. smile

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Well if it is the F-18, then it would be the first DCS product I will buy.
Blackshark being a helicopter and the A-10, AG only just never appealed to me so the F-18 would be welcome.
If it is the f-18, hopefully they will model both the C/D and E/F.
Both have similiar cockpits and similiar exterior (size and different intake shapes)so it should be easily done.

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I as well hope it's a hornet. Problem is, with all the extra work needed for carrier ops, it could take a bit longer than it took to make DCS A-10C? Who knows. Either way, whatever the next aircraft is, you can bet we will all buy it. :-)

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Well, I'd actually take an F-16 or F-15, simply because the VRS Superbug, given it's accuracy, exposes a lot of the hornets weaknesses. For one, it's slow compared to it's contemporary's, struggling to hit Mach with any kind of useful payload. Plus, there are several compounding problems.

1. It's often regarded as underpowered (seems to be the result of aerodynamic inefficiency)
2. It's "draggy", and isn't as fuel efficient as it was hoped it would be.
3. This means those two extra weapon stores it has over the baby hornet, are often taken up with fuel tanks
4. Said fuel tanks (and any other under-wing ordinance) sit 3 degrees crowed out, meaning they are effectively side slipping in flight, which leads to higher drag, which leads to higher fuel consumption, which means the plane needs more fuel...and you see where this is going.


I want to point out, none of these complaints are towards the work VRS has done. It's an awesome sim, and I'd put the Superbug on par with a DCS product as far as systems and modeling (combat not withstanding...for now). I fly it more than anything else in my FSX hanger smile Also, I'd still buy DCS hornet, the above are just reasons I'd like an F-16 or F-15


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I'm guessing either way, people will snap up the next DCS title and the forums will be flooded with request for cockpit plans and measurements.

Be happy for the quiet that comes before the storm.

Though I, for one, can't wait!

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Originally Posted By: Skoop
The hornet makes the most sense with these new ship pics.

These ships are not new and are available in-game right now. I don't understand why this thread is such a big deal.

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The models are newer, updated versions. At least the Russian ones and the Perry frigate.

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I just looked to confirm and it seems to me that the only one that actually is different is the Normandy.





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I think in 1.0.0.9 they add pitching deck for ships depending of the weather.

Personnally I cant hope for something else than a F15E, but having carrier ops made by ED would be way to awesome


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