SimHQ
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Hop To
#3265449 04/10/11 12:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 40,112
2
Site Emeritus
Honorary Forums Manager
Sierra Hotel
Site Emeritus
Honorary Forums Manager
Sierra Hotel
2 Offline
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 40,112
Just wondering about this. Other than a direct hit, or very close adjacent one, what other damage could a 500# bomb do a tank? For the sake of argument a medium WWII tank, like the German Panther. At what range would it be considered lethal for the tank, and why?

Let's say it's 100 meters. Bomb impacts, what happens to the tank? Is it destroyed, damaged, undamaged? If damaged, is the damage caused by concussion/blast effects? I can't imagine once you get to a certain distance, the shrapnel would puncture a tanks armor. But I have no idea what that distance is.

"P-51's, sir. Tank Busters".

Just curious if anyone knows.


Pat Tillman (1976-2004):
4 years Arizona State University, graduated with high honors.
5 seasons National Football League player, Arizona Cardinals.
Forever United States Army Ranger.
Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 9,760
Likes: 3
B
Simhq Weather man, dropping rain in your parade
Hotshot
Simhq Weather man, dropping rain in your parade
Hotshot
B Offline
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 9,760
Likes: 3
The tank ? nothing, a few scratched metal,the crew inside ? pankake.

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 40,112
2
Site Emeritus
Honorary Forums Manager
Sierra Hotel
Site Emeritus
Honorary Forums Manager
Sierra Hotel
2 Offline
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 40,112
I should have made that clear. I mean physical damage to the tank and injury/death to the crew.


Pat Tillman (1976-2004):
4 years Arizona State University, graduated with high honors.
5 seasons National Football League player, Arizona Cardinals.
Forever United States Army Ranger.
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12,415
Likes: 12
Veteran
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 12,415
Likes: 12
IMO it would require a very closeby hit to disable the tank, and a direct hit to kill the crew and destroy the tank, an uncontained HE blast just isn't an efficient way of doing business against heavy armor.

However the bomb fragments could damage antennae, sights, vision blocks, stowed equipment etc from a decent distance.

In Desert Storm, B-52's full of dumb bombs were used against massed dug in Iraqi armor, but that wasn't nearly as effective as hoped, so "tank plinking" with LGBs was adopted.

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 27,044
Likes: 26
W
Lifer
Lifer
W Offline
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 27,044
Likes: 26
After the bombings for "Operation Cobra" several German tanks had been flipped upside down. I think that would be good enough to take them out of action.


Wheels


Cheers wave
Wheelsup_cavu

Mission4Today (Campaigns, Missions, and Skins for IL-2)
Planes of Fame Air Museum | March Field Air Museum | Palm Springs Air Museum
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 15,827
M
Dread pirate Mace
Veteran
Dread pirate Mace
Veteran
M Offline
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 15,827
Originally Posted By: Blade_RJ
the crew inside ? pankake.


Pankake? Sounds dodgy to me, didn't know they did that sort of thing in the 40's smile

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,062
Likes: 19
K
It's KRT not Kurt
Hotshot
It's KRT not Kurt
Hotshot
K Offline
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,062
Likes: 19
The rear and underside of the Tank is where it's most vulnerable, I have read somewhere where they tried to skip the bomb in under the Tank if they could or hit it in the rear end, of course HVARS might work but again from the rear.


Win 11 Pro
MSI B450M-A PRO MAX AM4 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz (4.25 GHz Max Boost) 95W Desktop Processor 16GB RAM
MSI GTX 1070 8Gb
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,304
F
Veteran
Veteran
F Offline
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 10,304
I heard of P-47 pilots trying to ricochet .50 cal rounds off road surfaces into the underside of tanks.


"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it."
--Mark Twain

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.

XBL: fmdckr81
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,204
A
Senior Member
Senior Member
A Offline
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,204
Originally Posted By: ForSquirrels
I heard of P-47 pilots trying to ricochet .50 cal rounds off road surfaces into the underside of tanks.


Total nonsense. Just think about the ballistics there.

Last edited by akdavis; 04/10/11 03:46 PM.

--AKD

"I hope and I need." -Oleg Maddox

Moderated by  RacerGT 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
SpaceX Starship Going to Orbit
by F4UDash4 - 09/28/26 12:37 PM
God Forbid they want to have a bit of fun at work
by NoFlyBoy - 09/22/26 08:50 PM
How a 5" 38 Caliber US Naval Gun Works
by F4UDash4 - 09/19/26 01:20 AM
100% commission based sales
by PanzerMeyer - 09/18/26 04:47 PM
Relativity
by Terl9999 - 09/18/26 04:34 AM
HOA's
by Terl9999 - 09/18/26 04:12 AM
Football
by Terl9999 - 09/18/26 02:42 AM
Flags
by Terl9999 - 09/15/26 10:03 PM
September 15th Battle of Britain Day.
by RedToo - 09/15/26 08:06 PM
Population Patterns
by PanzerMeyer - 09/15/26 03:43 PM
Popular Topics(Views)
7,070,768 SAM Simulator
Copyright 1997-2016, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.1