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I wouldn't go so far as to say it's deliberate ***, I think the publishers just got tired of financing broken software that was just spinning it's wheels and decided to shove it out the door and try to recoup at least some of their investement, it happens all the time in this industry.

Doesn't really matter what happened at the top though, the end result is we are stuck with a buggy, broken piece of trash that isn't worth the disc it's printed on. If I could get a refund I would but I can't so I just have to say goodbye to that $40 and hope they can fix the game but I personally don't believe it's in a state that can be fixed.

I'm sitting here trying to think of a major game release more broken than Cliffs of Dover and I can't.

The state this, I hesitate to even call it a game, is in at release would be funny if I didn't want a new IL2 so badly.

I agree with you (the did not set out at the outset *** customers).....this thing spun round and round for years and Ubi said "push it out the door and let's see how much of our money we can get back by non-refundable sales"

And that was that.....that's ***. They knew is was borked. They likely knew from a code architecture stand point that it could not be fixed based upon development decisions that were made years ago to extend the Il-2 engine vs writing something from scratch. They waited as long as they could and finally decided to publish it as is. They made a "business decision" to recover as much sunk development costs as they could.

It has already failed. It is broken, that is beyond dispute, and given the nature of what we see now and 1C's inability to provide with the first patch what they said would be provided, it is clear it cannot and will not be fixed.

Yes, it is painful for many to get to grips with that reality, and while that reality is being gripped we will continue to see it being defended. By fewer, and less vocifirously, until the forum becomes quiet, the game is forgotten, and we all move on, bitter but wiser.

I never wanted it to fail, but I do want the devs and the publisher to suffer a comeback. That will be delivered as a certainty, in failed sales. And that fate is entirely and wholly deserved. We have been treated with utter contempt. We were not warned of the game's state; quite the opposite, all pre-release material led us to believe it would be a viable product. The only warning we did get was from the Russian purchasers, but that was disarmed with claims the epilepsy-filter was the cause of poor performance. That turned out to be totally false.

Those of you who remain unable to accept that reality will accept it eventually when the game finally proves to be un-fixable. And you will then regard this as a landmark moment, however trivial you consider it to be (it's "just a game" afterall), when an already over-extended line was flagrantly crossed.

Why should we find fixes? I am a paying customer, I pay for that to happen? Should I expect a cheque in the mail from Maddox for helping them refine their game so they can make more money out of it? Should we all be on the payroll?

I agree.. why are we all being so kind... most of us have spent our hard earn cash expecting, as one should when buying a video game, a working Game! In no other industry could u possibly get away with this. Oh BTW I bought this new car!... the guy says he going to give me the suspension and wheels next week! Those blokes have a dedication for optimizing my car's performance! Can�t wait until they finally give me the doors, steering wheel and breaks! Oh man� What a dedicated team.