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I like both visions but I will break it down a bit more:

The Villeneuve version is much more faithful to the novel but the overall aesthetics, music and production design I don't find to be all that compelling. It falls short in the "world building" category.

The Lynch version makes some major changes from the novel but the "world building" aspects I mentioned before like the aesthetics, production design and music are VERY well executed.


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Thinking on it I guess my thoughts are :

Saw the original in a theatre and that usually makes it better. Also since it was first it kind of biased me to what it should be. I liked the steampunk look to many of the devices.

The Villeneuve production didn’t draw me in as much because it seemed the dialogue was muted and everything was said so softly or in a whisper. With my bad hearing I had to struggle. But if I turned up the volume the sound effects were too loud. The actors mostly seemed drowsy with little life to them. The beginning was paced too slowly. The fighting scenes just seemed odd to me, almost cartoonish. And they changed the storyteller from Princess Irulan to Chani and I felt that wasn’t right. I saw it on tv rather than the theatre and I’m sure that affected my satisfaction.


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We should also mention the Dune mini-series from the SyFy Channel which came out in 2000. It was a mini-series so it was very faithful to the novel but the big problem with that production is that it often looked more like a stage play than an epic film. The limitations of the budget were quite apparent.


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LOL! What did I just watch? Was this made by the Indian equivalent of Michael Bay?


You thought that was bad, check out the F-35 post ejection scene in this one:




To give credit where credit is due (albeit "credit" might be a bit of a misnomer here), the F-35 sequences in this fan-made (?) video are blatantly ripped from infamous Battlefield 2042 game trailer from two years back. Even Bollywood script writers are reluctant to this level of bulshittery (although they're not far off sometimes wink ).

Back on topic, anyone here has seen the "Ferrari" movie yet? I'm thinking about it, but prefer to ask community in fligth and race-sim forum, 'cause "casual" folks have different perception.

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Originally Posted by Art_J


Back on topic, anyone here has seen the "Ferrari" movie yet? I'm thinking about it, but prefer to ask community in fligth and race-sim forum, 'cause "casual" folks have different perception.



Hopefully I will get to see it on Saturday if I can drag my wife to go with me. I may have to grant her 3 "chick flicks" in exchange. biggrin

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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer

Hopefully I will get to see it on Saturday if I can drag my wife to go with me. I may have to grant her 3 "chick flicks" in exchange. biggrin


Hopefully it won't be necessary wink . I dragged my GF to see "Godzilla Minus One" even though she wouldn't touch any monster move with a long stick. Neither would I to be honest, but I've heard so much good about it that we got curious and decided to give it a try. Was a good decision and we both enjoyed the movie so much that I don't have to do the "chick flick" payback biggrin .

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Originally Posted by Art_J
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Hopefully it won't be necessary wink . I dragged my GF to see "Godzilla Minus One" even though she wouldn't touch any monster move with a long stick. Neither would I to be honest, but I've heard so much good about it that we got curious and decided to give it a try. Was a good decision and we both enjoyed the movie so much that I don't have to do the "chick flick" payback biggrin .



I'm glad that worked out well for you! A few years ago I dragged my wife to go see "Rush" with me and she said it was 2 hours of pure torture. As penance I had to see "Pitch Perfect 2" with her.


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Aren't January and February movies usually poor?


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WIKI has a name for January-February movies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dump_months

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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Aren't January and February movies usually poor?





They are considered poor for financial reasons, not quality reasons. In other words, these are films that could be quite good but have very limited mainstream appeal.

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New Star Wars director: "I like to make men uncomfortable. I ENJOY making men uncomfortable."



Well it's not as if Disney Star Wars didn't already suck, now this wacko can finish off the franchise for good.


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
New Star Wars director: "I like to make men uncomfortable. I ENJOY making men uncomfortable."



Well it's not as if Disney Star Wars didn't already suck, now this wacko can finish off the franchise for good.



Who is directing the next SW movie? I have not seen this news yet.


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New Star Wars director: "I like to make men uncomfortable. I ENJOY making men uncomfortable."



Well it's not as if Disney Star Wars didn't already suck, now this wacko can finish off the franchise for good.



Who is directing the next SW movie? I have not seen this news yet.



https://deadline.com/2024/01/sharmeen-obaid-chinoy-star-wars-film-woman-director-1235694074/


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There are no upcoming Star Wars Movies.

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Originally Posted by wormfood
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There are no upcoming Star Wars Movies.



"Obaid-Chinoy is set to direct a new film centered around the character of Rey, with Daisy Ridley reprising her role. The movie will be set after the events of Star Wars — Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker as Rey builds a new Jedi Order."


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I really don’t care. Jar-Jar and the Ewoks pretty much ruined Star Wars for me.


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Sounds very promising to me. Due out 2026. Rey is a good character.


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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
I really don’t care. Jar-Jar and the Ewoks pretty much ruined Star Wars for me.


So it's been ruined for 41 years now then. biggrin


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
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New Star Wars director: "I like to make men uncomfortable. I ENJOY making men uncomfortable."



Well it's not as if Disney Star Wars didn't already suck, now this wacko can finish off the franchise for good.



Who is directing the next SW movie? I have not seen this news yet.



https://deadline.com/2024/01/sharmeen-obaid-chinoy-star-wars-film-woman-director-1235694074/


Thanks for this info. It will be a HARD PASS for me.


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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
I really don’t care. Jar-Jar and the Ewoks pretty much ruined Star Wars for me.



JarJar and the Ewoks never bothered me, I took them as comic relief. I was turned off by (Google to remember titles...) "Revenge of the Sith". And by everything that came after except for "Rogue One" and the Han Solo movie which I guess I was the only one to like that one.


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