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We are a flawed and f*cked up species. We can't live in peace with the people who live on this plant.
I don't think we are equipped to interact with other interstellar life forms.

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Originally Posted by WangoTango
We are a flawed and f*cked up species. We can't live in peace with the people who live on this plant.
I don't think we are equipped to interact with other interstellar life forms.


I feel they may come to this conclusion, also, hence if any of these "sightings" pan out to be authentic, is reason enough why they avoid direct contact with us.

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Well, we really only have one data point to base anything on, so there is no way of really knowing how an alien civilization might act.

Expanding on one of my earlier posts, look at ants - they are organized and controlled as a colony, and would do anything to help/defend the colony, selflessly sacrificing when needed, but will rip apart other creatures for their own survival, and that helps them survive. Evolve that up to a more intelligent race, and their basic instincts may allow them to dominate their planet, keeping themselves alive and prosperous by controlling, consuming, and/or destroying anything that's not them. They may just carry that approach out to other civilizations and view them as an extension of their environment.

Or maybe there are races out there that have the ability to simply consume rocks and light for their sustenance, have no need to compete for resources, and that allowed them to evolve cooperatively with their surroundings and achieve a great deal of intelligence, and they might carry that out into their interstellar interactions.

Or maybe one of another billion possibilities that we can't even think of based on the myriad conditions out there that could generate an advanced civilization, most of which are probably so alien to us that we can't fully understand their motivations.


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[quote=PanzerMeyer].

All that said, the humans who "explore" are less likely to be violent or looking to "take advantage". ".


I’m think the indigenous peoples of the Western and Southern Hemispheres might dispute that assertion!


Indeed. Betting on altruism (from someone outside your tribe/community) is an understandable form of wishful thinking, but it is frequently a losing bet.


Thing is, the Indigenous peoples fought among each other before Europeans arrived -- and still fought among each other afterwards. They just added one more adversary to fight with. Sometimes Europeans started the fight, sometimes indigenous people started the fight.

Which emphasizes the point: That's normally how human factions behave towards other human factions. And, normally both sides deny criminality and/or culpability.

Nonetheless, occasionally a European Explorer was "on the side" of the indigenous peoples (e.g. Girolamo Benzoni, it is said). When I wrote "less likely" (quoted above), I was thinking of the exceptions -- like Girolamo was said to be (but, was he?). confused

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Finally something solid to go on.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/5589655/speak-aliens-ancient-pyramid-secret-language/?rec_article=true


It is really going to help having someone that can speak to them in their language.


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LMAO.

Thanks for the great laugh OG. Why is it that hot women are usually batshi* crazy?


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Why is it that hot women are usually batshi* crazy?

I'm sure the ugly ones are too just no one pays attention to them.


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Originally Posted by Arthonon
Well, we really only have one data point to base anything on, so there is no way of really knowing how an alien civilization might act.

Expanding on one of my earlier posts, look at ants - they are organized and controlled as a colony, and would do anything to help/defend the colony, selflessly sacrificing when needed, but will rip apart other creatures for their own survival, and that helps them survive. Evolve that up to a more intelligent race, and their basic instincts may allow them to dominate their planet, keeping themselves alive and prosperous by controlling, consuming, and/or destroying anything that's not them. They may just carry that approach out to other civilizations and view them as an extension of their environment.

Or maybe there are races out there that have the ability to simply consume rocks and light for their sustenance, have no need to compete for resources, and that allowed them to evolve cooperatively with their surroundings and achieve a great deal of intelligence, and they might carry that out into their interstellar interactions.

Or maybe one of another billion possibilities that we can't even think of based on the myriad conditions out there that could generate an advanced civilization, most of which are probably so alien to us that we can't fully understand their motivations.


i disagree on two acounts, if there is any race out there who lives on mineral or light and dont need to compete for resources, they are problably dumb creatures not very evolved, if we take earth for exemple, evolution seems triggered exactly by competiton for resources,its why i always question people notion of inteligence...why would an octopus need to know math ? does it mean its not inteligent ? it evolved enough for its enviroment. we are the ones who didnt evolve into our enviroment, so we cheated the system and changed the enviroment to us, this need to change the enviroment to suit our needs s in part what cause atriction between our specie as well as the fake value we imbued to things, because one brick of rock doesnt equal a nice painted glass for reasons.

so if you want to know if an alien race is benign or not in your first encounter, do a test if you are not outright eaten or made a hub for their eggs, given them 2 pebbles you find in the ground along an item of your possesion like a key card, your phone (remove the chip first, we must not let them find about the internet or we are doomed). if they offer you something in return, bash their skull or whatever looks closely to it. that means they have an economy and as such they will be an expansionist species.

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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Finally something solid to go on.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/5589655/speak-aliens-ancient-pyramid-secret-language/?rec_article=true


It is really going to help having someone that can speak to them in their language.


i dont know if she can speak with aliens, maybe she can. but there was one guy who claimed to chant and comunicate to summon ufos...a local tv went to interview him, in the kind of mockery they use to do, but it turned out one ufo showed up in front of their cameras after the guy chanting in hebrew

it was hard to find the video, most source i found went private on the video. but watch this while it is still on

hmmm just watched, this was not the original video, still searching

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Originally Posted by Blade_RJ


i dont know if she can speak with aliens, maybe she can


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The woman can be seen speaking a mixture of gibberish, Spanish and English


I'm going with 'no'. Just another TikToker looking for views.

This is a quote on that YT video of the guy who can summon UFOs.

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The US government may need to look into this man. Whatever he's doing, whether it's some sort of spiritual presence or alien this man is able to summon it at will. It could be some sort of national security issue.


I had trouble submitting this post as I was laughing so hard I couldn't click on 'post reply'. hahaha









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The internet’s global instant reach makes you painfully aware of just his many wackos are out there.


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Takea gander at these, some are WTF !

https://www.tiktok.com/@googlethecurious

Like: https://www.tiktok.com/@googlethecurious/video/7110005177406606635 Jokes in the comment (can't read them without account) it's the rebel base in Star Wars

I remember reading about this when I was a kid. How did they do that? No airplanes 2000 years ago. Only aliens with flying technology could had made them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_Lines

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Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
Originally Posted by Arthonon
Well, we really only have one data point to base anything on, so there is no way of really knowing how an alien civilization might act.

Expanding on one of my earlier posts, look at ants - they are organized and controlled as a colony, and would do anything to help/defend the colony, selflessly sacrificing when needed, but will rip apart other creatures for their own survival, and that helps them survive. Evolve that up to a more intelligent race, and their basic instincts may allow them to dominate their planet, keeping themselves alive and prosperous by controlling, consuming, and/or destroying anything that's not them. They may just carry that approach out to other civilizations and view them as an extension of their environment.

Or maybe there are races out there that have the ability to simply consume rocks and light for their sustenance, have no need to compete for resources, and that allowed them to evolve cooperatively with their surroundings and achieve a great deal of intelligence, and they might carry that out into their interstellar interactions.

Or maybe one of another billion possibilities that we can't even think of based on the myriad conditions out there that could generate an advanced civilization, most of which are probably so alien to us that we can't fully understand their motivations.


i disagree on two acounts, if there is any race out there who lives on mineral or light and dont need to compete for resources, they are problably dumb creatures not very evolved, if we take earth for exemple, evolution seems triggered exactly by competiton for resources,its why i always question people notion of inteligence...why would an octopus need to know math ? does it mean its not inteligent ? it evolved enough for its enviroment. we are the ones who didnt evolve into our enviroment, so we cheated the system and changed the enviroment to us, this need to change the enviroment to suit our needs s in part what cause atriction between our specie as well as the fake value we imbued to things, because one brick of rock doesnt equal a nice painted glass for reasons.

so if you want to know if an alien race is benign or not in your first encounter, do a test if you are not outright eaten or made a hub for their eggs, given them 2 pebbles you find in the ground along an item of your possesion like a key card, your phone (remove the chip first, we must not let them find about the internet or we are doomed). if they offer you something in return, bash their skull or whatever looks closely to it. that means they have an economy and as such they will be an expansionist species.

I think the issue is that you're looking only at Earth, which again, is just one data point. If you think about all of the things that went into human evolution, so many were specific to Earth that we have no way of knowing whether life on other planets would have any of the same developmental processes. If a species did not have to compete for survival,or even expend much effort, maybe that would leave them free to explore and develop technologies for that, and satisfy their curiosity. Maybe it could take eons longer to achieve than on Earth, or maybe faster, it all depends on their biological development and other evolutionary inputs based on their environment. Maybe they didn't have competition from other life, but maybe their planet was volcanic and required solutions for survival from that standpoint, so they still had motivation to progress.


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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Takea gander at these, some are WTF !



I remember reading about this when I was a kid. How did they do that? No airplanes 2000 years ago. Only aliens with flying technology could had made them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_Lines


Or they were made by the Nasca people who lived there at the time. What am I thinking? Of course it was aliens. That's the only logical explanation duh


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How can they make it when they can't see the progress of it from the sky?

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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
How can they make it when they can't see the progress of it from the sky?


Probably using a high tech stick and some rope.

How did the Romans build straight roads? They didn't have aircraft either.

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How can they make it when they can't see the progress of it from the sky?


Probably using a high tech stick and some rope.

How did the Romans build straight roads? They didn't have aircraft either.


rome at least its documented how they did it. wich was pretty ingenious.

Also the nascar people disapeared just like the incans maybe they WERE the aliens.....hmmmm ? about the nascar lines they are too far apart to be guided by eyes. and the only way for them to know if its correct is to draw them then scale a mountain and go back down to make alterations. i dont think they were using smoke siginals from the mountain but...

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Originally Posted by Blade_RJ

rome at least its documented how they did it. wich was pretty ingenious.

And according to the internet, if it wasn't documented, or it was lost, it was aliens.

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Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
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Also the nascar people disapeared just like the incans maybe they WERE the aliens.....hmmmm ? ...


My guess is it was the left turns that did them in.


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