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one error in the Read me is that there are 4 versions of the NGNB(new guinea/new Britain) map.
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Blue lines are IJA/IJN controlled fields
Green are abandoned
Red are Allied



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Amazing data!


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I'm at a loss.

Sokol1, will or won't the radar been included in 4.13 ? Will it be fully functional ? Will this delay 4.13 for long ?

There are many very exciting things in this readme, but i must admit i've been craving for this radar for years.

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I was just about to post asking when we would get a map of Rabaul when I saw this thread. Fantastic!

We now have the Marshalls, Philippines, Truk, and soon Rabaul. I'll be re-writing missions for years to come!

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It's been a long time since this info originally came out, anyone have any idea when..? Even a rumor or estimate?


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First readme without a correspoonding patch. If if woudn't be that embarrassing, it would be hilarious. Don't you think?

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Originally Posted By: Airway
First readme without a correspoonding patch. If if woudn't be that embarrassing, it would be hilarious. Don't you think?


Nothing embarrassing about the work these people deliver. And for free too.

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Well, I actually have heard a rumor and not to be taken as gospel but, from someone who knows about these things. We might see it by Spring, March or thereabouts. cool


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Originally Posted By: Airway
First readme without a correspoonding patch. If if woudn't be that embarrassing, it would be hilarious. Don't you think?


Not really.. early readme files have been submitted many times in IL2's history. Even before Oleg left the building.


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First readme without a correspoonding patch. If if woudn't be that embarrassing, it would be hilarious. Don't you think?


Nothing embarrassing about the work these people deliver. And for free too.


What work we see, 14 months after first announcement of this patch and 3 months after releasing a readme file to it?
Would have been no problem to tell us that work on this project has stalled and should not be subject of expectation for us anymore.
But idling around, not even finding time to tell that there are other things more important in real life of TD - which everybody would understand and accept- is just only showing TDs lack of interest in this project and that they leave the whole thing to the field of rumours at all.


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Cool, provide several free major updates to a 14 year old game and get crap because they are too slow with the next.

What they have done so far combined with the huge TFM mod has extended the life Of IL2 well into its second decade.

With the apparent poor marketing condition and stifled options package of the pretender(bos)to the IL2 throne, we are fortunate to have TD and the various mod teams to keep us current.

Thanks TD, if you see this and most of us are patiently waiting.

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Originally Posted By: Airway
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First readme without a correspoonding patch. If if woudn't be that embarrassing, it would be hilarious. Don't you think?


Nothing embarrassing about the work these people deliver. And for free too.


What work we see, 14 months after first announcement of this patch and 3 months after releasing a readme file to it?
Would have been no problem to tell us that work on this project has stalled and should not be subject of expectation for us anymore.
But idling around, not even finding time to tell that there are other things more important in real life of TD - which everybody would understand and accept- is just only showing TDs lack of interest in this project and that they leave the whole thing to the field of rumours at all.



Read the post about half way down by Sita.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=40958&page=99

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Originally Posted By: Sunchaser
Cool, provide several free major updates to a 14 year old game and get crap because they are too slow with the next.

What they have done so far combined with the huge TFM mod has extended the life Of IL2 well into its second decade.

With the apparent poor marketing condition and stifled options package of the pretender(bos)to the IL2 throne, we are fortunate to have TD and the various mod teams to keep us current.

Thanks TD, if you see this and most of us are patiently waiting.


I don't know about all of that.. but for the meat of your post you are absolutely right.. at this point with IL2 we all should indeed just be grateful.. for what we are getting because these gentlemen are not being paid and the are volunteers doing it out of passion for the sim .. much like the folks from TF.

Looking forward to 4.13 whenever it gets here.


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Originally Posted By: Airway

What work we see, 14 months after first announcement of this patch and 3 months after releasing a readme file to it?
Would have been no problem to tell us that work on this project has stalled and should not be subject of expectation for us anymore.
But idling around, not even finding time to tell that there are other things more important in real life of TD - which everybody would understand and accept- is just only showing TDs lack of interest in this project and that they leave the whole thing to the field of rumours at all.



i think that Real Life so much important so as a factor, it is not even necessary to remind about it.

What work you want to see? Traditionally the team does not like to show something that has no relevance to this work .... i mean no relevance to 4.13 ...
we have tons of work ... finished or almost finished ... but it's not for 4.13 ... so we didn't show it ... almost ... in some resource you can find it ...
some of us have really tired ... but not loose their interest in this project ...

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First readme without a correspoonding patch. If if woudn't be that embarrassing, it would be hilarious. Don't you think?


Nothing embarrassing about the work these people deliver. And for free too.


What work we see, 14 months after first announcement of this patch and 3 months after releasing a readme file to it?
Would have been no problem to tell us that work on this project has stalled and should not be subject of expectation for us anymore.
But idling around, not even finding time to tell that there are other things more important in real life of TD - which everybody would understand and accept- is just only showing TDs lack of interest in this project and that they leave the whole thing to the field of rumours at all.



Read the post about half way down by Sita.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=40958&page=99


Thanks, for the link.

Why don't they simply update the corresponding thread? That way one would see progress instead of silly community fair speaking, which always is annoying and useless.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=40957

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First readme without a correspoonding patch. If if woudn't be that embarrassing, it would be hilarious. Don't you think?


Nothing embarrassing about the work these people deliver. And for free too.


What work we see, 14 months after first announcement of this patch and 3 months after releasing a readme file to it?
Would have been no problem to tell us that work on this project has stalled and should not be subject of expectation for us anymore.
But idling around, not even finding time to tell that there are other things more important in real life of TD - which everybody would understand and accept- is just only showing TDs lack of interest in this project and that they leave the whole thing to the field of rumours at all.



Read the post about half way down by Sita.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=40958&page=99


Thanks, for the link.

Why don't they simply update the corresponding thread? That way one would see progress instead of silly community fair speaking, which always is annoying and useless.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=40957


And what have you to offer of your valuable time?

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Originally Posted By: SkyHigh


And what have you to offer of your valuable time?


Well, that's an killer argument, that is supposed to make me look like "I don't spend time on this project, so I don't have to criticise is".
That's not only poor but cheap. I will tell you anyway.

I'm not a modeler or programmer. I don't have the knowledge to offer my help in this project, but if I had and if I had announced it, like TD did, I would work on it straight on and force progress on the project until it's finished.
Otherwise I wouldn't tell anyone about it, and make them eager.
Or if plans have changed amid the project, I would inform the people that things have changed and what to expect, not keeping their thrill of anticipation high even with releasing a readme and then showing no progress afterwards.

You know what? I value all what TD has done for this game till v4.12.2m. It's awesome and most of it I would not have expected to find it's way into the game.
But how everything went with v4.13m, it changed all.
For example: I would never support an external project like the He-177, simply because I don't know if it would ever find it's way into a release patch from TD, after it had been finished. It's all about trust.
Interest has decreased in Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946, not alone because other games have been published like BoS, or modules in DCS.
Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946 is still state of the art in terms of complexity, flyable planes, maps and other options. No other game has to offer that much differnt options how to use and set up this game.
But if the community sees it beeing strangled by it's self-proclaimed developers, it also strangles the community.
That is what happened, and TDs silence has been part of it. That's what I'm questioning.
Sure, everybode else can see things more uncritical than me, but it seems that's only because they haven't locked the game in their heart and they simply don't care.

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Originally Posted By: Airway
they simply don't care.


nice... popcorn

seems like i spend 12 hour per a weekend and by one or two hour in at every weekdays in PS and 3Dmax just because i don't care ...

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Mr Airway, I might be cheap, according to you, but where's your evidence of all this "strangulation" or is it just paranoid obfuscation because your sense of entitlement deprives you of the patience to wait? There's an old saying about not looking gift horses in the mouth.

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