homepage Forums Technology Flight Sim Controllers T.A.R.G.E.T. (Thrustmaster) New Thrustmaster user, need help with T.A.R.G.E.T.

Hi all.

I just got myself a new TM T-16000M (nice stick for us left handers) and I need help understanding how to use the editing software.

All I really need to know is how to assign button 7 to toggle on/off a keyboard key (specifically the "e" key).

I need it to press and hold "e" on the first push, and release on the second push.

How would I even begin to do that?

Well, that's pretty easy to help ya with, but first...

TARGET can work in two different ways - "GUI" and "script".

GUI:
- is great for people who don't program.
- can do most things most people would want, for most games/sims.
- can be easily exported to script if your needs change.

script:
- more closely resembles C or javascript programming.
- can be made incredibly powerful.
- CAN NOT be exported to GUI mode.

Which way would you like to see?

I have been reading the instructions to both.

To be honest, the GUI software is considerably easier to understand at the moment.

I can see how to assign a key press for push/in, and another when you release/out, but no hint about how to do a toggle.

I would very much appreciate any assistance.

Ahhh, OK. If you see how to assign the push/release, then you're only missing 1 piece...

In the window where you're clicking the pulldown to choose between hold/press/release/pulse, there's a checkbox labeled "sequence". Check that.

Then set it to 'press', and click 'add event' (if add is grayed out, you need to fill out other fields...name for the event, etc).

Then simply change it to 'release' and click 'add event' again.

Thank you Teej.

Got my stick set up almost the way I want it now.

Still struggling with using the X and Y axis as mouse axis's though.

Running JoyToKey after starting the script seems to work fine however.

You mean the microstick x/y axes as mouse?

You set those in the axis mapping and will probably want to click the "arrow" next to them (so you see the curve settings) and click "relative" for both x and y. Probably also want to try a curve of 4, 5 or 6 also - the microstick is a bit oversensitive.

The "relative" checkbox switches between 2 modes - in the default (unchecked) mode, the mouse would move around the screen directly as the microstick does - when you let the stick off, the mouse centers on the screen...move the stick halfway to one corner, and the mouse cursor moves halfway to that corner. When you check relative, if you then move your finger a tiny bit, the mouse cursor will slowly move that way...when you let go, it will stop (instead of centering).

Thanks again Teej,

And I have been attempting to use the target software to transform the stick inputs into mouse movements.

It works fine at the desktop, however in the application (Planetside 2) the sensitivity is through the roof.

I turned down the "zoom" adjustment without effect inside the app.

It is not a large problem since Target and JoyToKey can work in conjunction to give me the desired function.

You are using TARGET and JoyToKey to have better mouse sensitivity? How are you doing that? That's my absolute biggest complaint on the warthog. When I use my CH setup, the throttle has a mini stick (microstick/whatever) where the thumb is, and it worked perfect with il-2 to view instrument readings. With the warthog, the sensitivity is far too insane to use the microstick as a mouse. I have gone into TARGET and made the curve as shallow as possible, including zooming in. It is still way too sensitive.

Well JoyToKey has a much more tame mouse emulation than Target it seems.

I am using it to transform the X and Y axis of the TM16000.m.

Basically I can grab my stick and move the mouse cursor around the screen.

In my application (Planetside 2) I use the stick to take advantage of the linear flight sensitivity scale instead of the poorly implemented ramping joystick scale.

But it might work for your warthog problem as well. I am pretty sure that any input (buttons, hats, etc.) can be assigned a mouse axis.

When I have tried TARGET, when I use an assigned button to mouse control, the cursor jumps to the center of the screen (0,0) then travels in the directions I command. When I transition back to the mouse for other tasks, the cursor jumps to where it was before the stick took over. It is these jumps that seem to be my difficulty.

I pretty much have the Thrustmaster GUI down except for "Configure Axis Mapping" p. 12. The GUI ignores input commands from Warthog Joystick & Throttle. When running "Script" the "Device Analyzer" is accepting Hotas inputs. I've completely removed the program & drivers & reloaded again. Hotas runs fine in sims BUT NOT Thrustmaster GUI setup. Anybody have any suggestions cause I'm up against the wall. Been workin on this one off & on for a couple of wks and am finally at the point of "cryin uncle"!

I'm _really_ new to TARGET, so if I'm misunderstanding you, I apologize.

It sounds like you want to be able to physically move the stick or throttle control and have the GUI recognize that somehow while you are making configuration choices.

As I understand the manual the GUI is not intended to work that way for the axis configs. Note that the manual even states, "You can create a configuration without any peripherals being connected". You need to manually select the axis configs with your mouse and keyboard.