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Hpasp #3483347 12/29/11 12:29 PM
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In general, SAM simulator itself I really liking, I do not know so long ago, but still very good even to me liking.

Thank you for such Hpasp razrabotichiku this project!

Dvina generally just class!

I really liked on!

That's what about further developing the idea after the Dvina should be Shilka, but now that it is not clear yet.

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The question of who knows why the Dvina in the Table Top Range 120 km.

The picture shown here ....




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Originally Posted By: max2012

The question of who knows why the Dvina in the Table Top Range 120 km.

The picture shown here ....




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For very fast targets, one can assume.

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I understood clearly!

Yes, and another 2 displayed maximum range of 110 km and 120 km here.

How then to be 120 km?

And if the sample target at an altitude of 12 km is not as an example, a 11.5 km or 7 km.

How then to define?




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Sorry, but I'm highly confused as to what you're asking.

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The question of who knows why the Dvina in the Table Top Range 120 km.

Question is good...
... why is 120km range in the table, where the Dvina is only displaying maximum 110km.

The last SA-75M Dvina system was removed from the Hungarian service, 28 years ago.
I had a chat with its last Fire Control Officer, but he did not remember why.

Non of the documentation I have, had any clue.

If I understand Your accent (as Russian), why don't you ask it in some Russian forums from the veterans, and share the findings with us?

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No I meant it.

I meant on 2 screens up to a maximum scale of 110 km.

In Table up to 120 km.

And yet in the table is the smallest target height is 4 км and distance 40 km.

And if the height of 2 km and 20 km range that do?

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And I do not know Russian forums.

And I do not know Russian forums.

I thought that you're a specialist!

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Hpasp #3484166 12/30/11 01:51 PM
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I thought at first that this error of 120 km, but it is not.

If you notice on the 2 screens below the handle on them is written 120/60, 110/55 km.

So for me it was strange that the 110/55, the table if we believe it should be 120/60 km.

I do not know Russian SAM Forum!

Hpasp #3484175 12/30/11 02:04 PM
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About 120 km it is clear to me!

Another question is if the target is at an altitude of 300 meters with a Jamming intercept.

The table only 4 km height and distance of 40 km at least.

How to calculate?

About 120 km it is clear to me!

Another question is if the target is at an altitude of 300 meters with a Jamming intercept.

The table only 4 km height and distance of 40 km at least.

How to calculate?

Stealth can the Dvina, real or not?

How to intercept the SR-71 Dvina, the speed 950 m / sec.

You can use against the SR-71 mode "DOGON"?

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I'm having trouble shooting down any jamming target over Hanoi, I have no problem shooting down jamming drones at Asuluk. My missiles simply disappear 3/4 of way before target. Any idea what might be the reason behind it?

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Originally Posted By: max2012

How to intercept the SR-71 Dvina, the speed 950 m / sec.

You can use against the SR-71 mode "DOGON"?


There is not a SAM complex between those which are simulated here, which is capable to bring down SR-71 when it receiding from the battery position...

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Originally Posted By: Vulture
I'm having trouble shooting down any jamming target over Hanoi, I have no problem shooting down jamming drones at Asuluk. My missiles simply disappear 3/4 of way before target. Any idea what might be the reason behind it?


Chaff layer, maybe? wink

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Originally Posted By: max2012


I do not know Russian SAM Forum!



Here's one of them.
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=47080&page=8

I think there are topics on sukhoi.ru as well. There is also PVO website somewhere.


EDIT: actually here's your post on sukhoi.ru.
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.ph...l=1#post1544930

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Thanks for the links to the Russian forum.

While this forum too I like it!

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Asuluk training ground.

Practice target:
LA-17 simulating F-86 Sabre

SA-75M Dvina


00:00, Practice target LA-17 simulating F-86 Sabre launched

39:07, V-750VU 11DU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 39km
Target azimuth: 129�
Target elevation: 19�
Target altitude: 13,1km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


39:40, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target LA-17 simulating F-86 Sabre killed by SAM. (miss distance: 46m)

The question I knocked the purpose of noise at a distance of 39 km.

Although the maximum range of only 34 km Dvina?

Hpasp #3484409 12/30/11 09:15 PM
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I congratulate all the Forum, I am coming year 2012.

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

There is a theoretical missile path. It should be always above the target.
There is the real missile path. The missile is oscillating around the theoretical missile path.
Within these oscillations, it could hit the earth.
Use the 5Ya23 missile, it has better maneuverability, and it has less oscillation.


This reminds me this HQ-9 video biggrin



--- q;
Due lack of I87V in Dvina, how to quess target speed for manual distance input, only by practice against drones?

Hpasp #3484587 12/31/11 03:34 AM
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You can calculate any 'missing' data from the table (and obtain an 0.1 degree resolution data if desired) using:

Arcsin(Height/Range) with both range and height in km.

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