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I cannot believe that color and saturation were made so the planes look like some plasteel toys.

Look at the yellow nose, the bloom , color and lightning is WAY OFF.






Now compare it with a real picture

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/2/7/5/0903572.jpg

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Oleg, seriously ?

ain't keeping me awake at night.
Both are lovely shots !

Cheers,
Slug

Nuggetx, seriously?

well, fact is that there is difference between images, but does it bother me?

Lol not at all, i am not going to loose any sleep over it, as long as it flys well

Some of us want to have a sim as close to reality as possible, not some xbox imitation.

Ok, you are right so, dont buy this xbox imitation sim.

The guys on here will sort that out with some lovely re-skins so don't worry

I'm more puzzled by the type of hood on the 109.

I would have expected the cockpit hood found in the real photo to be the norm, the 109's that I recall seeing in CoD seem to have have a different, lighter framed, more rounded version.

I point it out because one of the failings of the Emil, if memory serves, was its cramped cockpit combined with poor visibility because of the "heavy" framing.

Is the cockpit hood shown above the "Galland" hood ?

That canopy is an earlier version than the one seen in the picture. It's theoretically correct for the Bf109E-3 but was often replaced by the later canopy with heavier framing. The E-3 was the least numerous version used during the battle so it's kind of funny that it's the version chosen to be flyable. According to the latest research the E-1's and E-4's were far more common.

There never was a galland hood, Galland designed the head-armour with a thick armoured window for improved vision which became standard in late 1943 I think.

Sure, could be tweaked I guess. Maybe it's being done now?

Also, would a photo with the light source coming from the same direction be a better comparison to make? (Not that I care that much, but if you're quibbling with Oleg about saturation then getting that right in your two examples seems a rudimentary first step)

If you want perfect real life likes planes then your going to have to wait 10 years. 90% of peoples problems are very trivial.

White balance in the "real" pic looks off to me and it lacks contrast. So saying this picture doesn't look like that picture proves nothing what so ever. Unless you produce a PERFECT picture of the real thing taken at the same angle and at the same time of day etc that was in the sim it's all best guess rather than right or wrong.

I'll be more than happy to fly aircraft if they look like that. If it's to much for you then either wait for some new skins or adjust what you don't like via your monitor/Gfx card options

You all can argue about color tones all you want, and I'm certainly not going to tell you what your own country side looks like. But despite this being a sim, and having realistic goals, it's still someone's personal work. Their own personal creative, and artistic views are going to come into play. It is their work of art as it were, and as such, will always reflect the look, or style of the artists involved.
And when i look, I see IL3, and that's ok by me. More than OK, could you really ask for more than they've given in il2?

Well, I'm sure some will.

The screenshot looks identical to the photo. Notice the photo is presenting the shadow side of the plane. The screenshot is presenting the sunny side of the plane.

+1 i'm dissapointed that such little attention has been put into proper modelling of planes.

also notice that the green camo in photo goes along the end of the hood to the tail, in the Oleg version it cuts off goes up and then to the end of the tail, it looks ugly, the wingtips are also not yellow.

I think whats wrong is not the planes but the sky, it is way too dark resulting in the planes to look overbright and shiny. A brigher sky makes it look much better in my opinion: (quick photoshop :))



original:

Here is a render of 109 e3 from WOP. Which was done with more attention to details (proper green camo, yellow wingtips, not so white color on hood [yellow is still there tho]), even the pilot looks much more natural, overall much better than Il-2.

Booya! Oleg, you suck!

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/2/7/5/0903572.jpg









The WOP one looks like the one in real photo,,, cannot be done??? real planes in 10 years? nay sayers pls go away.


The Oleg moddeler team were probably under influence of SpitGirl or some other 2 week vodka party.....


(and pls don't bring stupid argument that WOP is arcade, PROPER colors and modelling can be done in any game)

WoP is all show, no go.