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Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
I thought that most if not all Cougar users pimped their tick with the U2 Nxt gimbal mod. That way, the Cougar is perfect when it comes to handling and durability. No more wear and tear. The rest of Cougar doesn't really need any fixing, except for some repositioning of severa buttons, which is fairly easy.
I use mine for almost 7 years now and all i have to do is to change on of the U2 Nxt springs from time to time. They have a tendency to fail after a couple of months. Mostly the y-axis ones.

But nothing really competes with the Cougar! The Warthog will be my next choice but this time, i will wait after the release to see how it really performs and let others beta test this puppy.


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Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
I thought that most if not all Cougar users pimped their tick with the U2 Nxt gimbal mod.


Or an FSSB mod - got an R2 in mine...

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Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
I thought that most if not all Cougar users pimped their tick with the U2 Nxt gimbal mod.


Maybe if the mods weren't so horrendously expensive, more people would have used them. More than doubling the cost of the initial unit is nuts.

450 Euros ($600+ CDN) + Shipping for the R2? Sure, I'll take 2 bs_sign

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Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
I use mine for almost 7 years now and all i have to do is to change on of the U2 Nxt springs from time to time. They have a tendency to fail after a couple of months. Mostly the y-axis ones.

Srsly?
If I had to change the springs, any of them, every couple months I would throw that thing through the wall!

I have the �ber Cougar I mod (which really cleaned up the action nicely), but the pots are trashed and the speedbreak switch is sketchy, after only 3 months of use. I put it back in the box not wanting to dump any more money into it and several years later it is still sitting in the garage.

Meanwhile my CH gear just kept working with no issues...


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Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
I thought that most if not all Cougar users pimped their tick with the U2 Nxt gimbal mod.

Far from it, especially when the total cost is pretty much double that of a brand new Cougar. (Even worse for those of us living west of the Atlantic and thus getting screwed hard on the exchange rate.)

Only reason why I blew US$333 shipped on a used Cougar is that it had the first-generation FCC mod installed, and even though that price hurt my wallet quite a bit (back when I actually had money to blow), it was still CHEAP by modded Cougar standards (especially for any sort of force sensor mod)!

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I have the �ber Cougar I mod (which really cleaned up the action nicely), but the pots are trashed and the speedbreak switch is sketchy, after only 3 months of use. I put it back in the box not wanting to dump any more money into it and several years later it is still sitting in the garage.

You just have that lying around doing nothing, not even bothering to sell it?

I'm sure someone out there wouldn't mind getting it, plunking down a bit more for a pair of Hall sensors and a new speedbrake switch, and generally putting it to good use.

Also, I'm disappointed in Guillemot/Thrustmaster yet again because they're STILL doing the Flash cocktease with no proper press release...at this rate, maybe they should've taken a page from Apple and not even bring it up until it's about to release in a few months.

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Right, the costs were pretty high. But the exchange rate from AUS $ to the � were ok and i got mine via special mates rates by Ian. smile
The spring "problem" is not really a problem. I may have to change one spring of the y-axis every 10 to 12 months. But Ian wrote about that and you get some spare springs with your Uber mod and can order new sets afterwards. I rather change a spring now and then and have a perfect Cougar feeling then using the plastic fantastic s**t, which looks like a girls toy like CH stuff. CH is very reliable but just doesn't cut the mustache. This stuff is so butt ugly i just can't stand having it standing on my desk.


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Originally Posted By: NamelessPFG

Also, I'm disappointed in Guillemot/Thrustmaster yet again because they're STILL doing the Flash cocktease with no proper press release...at this rate, maybe they should've taken a page from Apple and not even bring it up until it's about to release in a few months.


If you check the press releases of their previous products, you'll see that Guillemot seems to come out with a press release when the release of the product is very close.

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Originally Posted By: chshrkt
Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
I use mine for almost 7 years now and all i have to do is to change on of the U2 Nxt springs from time to time. They have a tendency to fail after a couple of months. Mostly the y-axis ones.

Srsly?
If I had to change the springs, any of them, every couple months I would throw that thing through the wall!

I have the �ber Cougar I mod (which really cleaned up the action nicely), but the pots are trashed and the speedbreak switch is sketchy, after only 3 months of use. I put it back in the box not wanting to dump any more money into it and several years later it is still sitting in the garage.

Meanwhile my CH gear just kept working with no issues...


If i didn�t have some important things the oblige me to save my money, i would make you an offer for your Cougar. Even with all his problems, and the money i had to expend with mine on mods for fixing it, for me, it�s irreplaceble, i LOVE the damn thing and its feeling. None of the saitek hotas i had (X36, 45 and 52) and the gameport CH combo (fighterstick and throttle) i also had, IMO, comes even near the level of the Cougar. smile


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Originally Posted By: Doomer
Originally Posted By: NamelessPFG

Also, I'm disappointed in Guillemot/Thrustmaster yet again because they're STILL doing the Flash cocktease with no proper press release...at this rate, maybe they should've taken a page from Apple and not even bring it up until it's about to release in a few months.


If you check the press releases of their previous products, you'll see that Guillemot seems to come out with a press release when the release of the product is very close.


If you check the first post in this thread, you'll see that it was six months ago!


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Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
Right, the costs were pretty high. But the exchange rate from AUS $ to the � were ok and i got mine via special mates rates by Ian. smile


Why does that not surprise me? The whole modding scene for the Cougar was very "friends only". If you had the connections, you were set for pricing, etc. And you could get your buddies to drum up enthusiasm for your designs. If not, you were expected to pay through the nose to get the parts, and your ideas were ignored.

And incidentally, it's amazing how many of the friends seem to overlook the shortcomings of the mods. They talk about how amazing the "feel" is, but gloss over everything else.

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The U2 mod has no shortcomings and i think nobody could talk up Ian about the design. He did all the brainstorming and when you wanted the mod, you just bought it the way it was.


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Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
I thought that most if not all Cougar users pimped their tick with the U2 Nxt gimbal mod.


No, see when some of us bought it in the first place we had this silly notion that it would just work without having to double the price paid for some mod. So some of us went elsewhere.


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No, see when some of us bought it in the first place we had this silly notion that it would just work without having to double the price paid for some mod. So some of us went elsewhere.

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And how do any of the past few posts have anything to do with the Thrustmaster Warthog? Back on topic people... Please.

Oh, and by the way, those of you in Spain on a Spanish forum (you know who you are) talking up the picture I posted earlier, it's NOT a Thrustmaster Warthog wink


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Maybe if Thrustmaster was a little forthcoming it would give us something on topic to discuss wink


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Ghost.. a CH Products 'Warthog' maybe? Hmm? That would be grand!

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Oh, and by the way, those of you in Spain on a Spanish forum (you know who you are) talking up the picture I posted earlier, it's NOT a Thrustmaster Warthog wink


Oops! This picture are show in Spanish forum - Brazilian speak Portuguese, not Spanish. wink

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Originally Posted By: Fridge
Ghost.. a CH Products 'Warthog' maybe? Hmm? That would be grand!

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Posted over on the ubisoft IL2 forums:

What it has:

Unique Replica of the A-10C Aircraft Controller

Replica JOYSTICK:

- H.E.A.R.T� HallEffect AccuRate Technology: 3D magnetic sensors (Hall Effect) on the stick:
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- USB connection with upgradeable firmware
- Super-stable, weighted base (over 3kg)
- New detachable handle, crafted entirely of metal: also compatible with HOTAS COUGAR
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- Weighted base (over 3kg) incorporated underneath the throttles
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- 13 action buttons in total + 1 TRIM wheel.


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