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I've been frustrated too.

Until I watched the flash banner through again and found out it now has "Available spring 2010" at the end.

And as Wikipedia puts it:"In the Northern Hemisphere, spring runs from March into May"

Thanks.
I believe I will wait and see more about this one before I buy.

Hmm, in the southern hemispere it starts 6 months later.

Hmmmm

The last major stick release from TM happened on March 3, 2003....coincidence that they are saying "Available Spring 2010"....more to come later.

The one thing I noticed is the secondary throttle has a button on it.

On the G940, it doen't have one. That fits into my plans of a twin throttle stick setup. I want to remove the handle on the secondary throttle and put a small ball on the shaft to serve as either mixture or (depending on the game) propeller.
Since the Warthog has a button in the second throttle, it will make a modification more complicated.

I am also interested in trying FFB again. I haven't used a FFB stick since probably 2001 when I had a MSFFB on loan for a few weeks. So I'm buying the G940. LOL, I have had one in my shopping cart at Provantage for a couple weeks while I compared features of different skick/throttle combos. FFB isn't a must have, but I am curious to try it again. The secondary throttle being buttonless makes modding it fairly easy. It has all the buttons, knobs, etc. that I will need for the games I play. Overall, it seems to suit my needs better than anything else I have came up with.

I figure I can do the throttle mod to it and once the Warthog is out, I will know if FFB is really something I like. If not, I may then decide to switch to the Warthog. I really do feel like at some point I will own a Warthog. But I just got to give the G940 a shot. I really believe I will like it.

not that much I'd reckon.
You just cut the wires leading to the button and remove the handle with the button.
As far as the Warthog is concerned that button will never be pushed.
You could even add that button elsewhere.

I just went ahead and bought the G940.
Sometime I may get a Warthog. For now the G940 should be okay, as long as I like the FFB.
If not, I can sell it after the Warthog comes out, but I think I will like the FFB, especially since most planes I fly in flight sims are prop planes.

I did give some thought to the throttle on the Warthog, and I too figured I could just put a button somewhere else and wire it to wires from the throttle button. But, decided on the G940 since it should be easy enough to mod the throttle and I really want to try FFB again.

I don't think I made a mistake, but we'll see.

I hope this thing will feature a gameport, so i can connect my SIMPED F-16 Cougar Pedals. I doubt that the pedals will work with a gameport/USB adapter.

Well after a couple hours with the G940 in RoF, FSX, FS9 and Wop, I think I may really keep a close eye on the Warthog.

The G940 is a nice system, but I don't know about the FFB. True I am not used to it, but it is very generic feeling. I think I would rather have a stiffly sprung non-FFB. But it is early and I haven't messed with the FFB settings very much yet. Just experimenting now with different things.

I don't even know if any of the flight sims have config files for FFB effects or not. If they do, maybe I can get something nicer with edits.

I will be able to easily remove this throttle handle and replace it with a ball. It will be perfect like that, especially if I fabricate an extension on the left side of the main throttle to support that part of my palm. The secondary throttle with a small ball will be low enough to be out of the way, but easy to reach with my pinky and ring fingers, without needing to take my hand off the main throttle. Of course this can probably be done with the Warthog too, but it is very simple to do on the G940.

I certainly don't hate it by no means, but it will take some getting used to and some more playing around with the FFB settings to get a really good overall effect, if that's even possible. Unless you have felt the G940, you may not understand what I mean. I imagine anyone that has, knows exactly what I mean. They are good, well built and sturdy units, but FFB is well,,,, generic, mechanical feeling.

I have asked Mr. Hofmann (SIMPED) about the Cougar F-16 pedals and the possibility of using them with an USB adapter. He replied that it doesn't work. All adapters are for analog signals and the SIMPEDs are digital. So when the new HOTAS doesn't feature a gameport, all Cougar pedal owners are stuck for the time beeing. Mr. Hofmann has to build an adapter when the HOTAS has been released.
Problem is that they don't get support from Thrustmaster and also have to buy a retail HOTAS when available.

since my Cougar started behaving strangely (the button-mapping is suddenly all wrong) i've been looking for all info about the Warthog i could get. which isn't much.
interesting enough: amazon germany has it for pre-order:

http://www.amazon.de/Guillemot-HOTAS-War...9454&sr=8-1

date is june 4th, price 359,99 EUR (ca. 489 USD)

they deleted the link

I can only wonder if they'll do a sign swap for the US price (US$359.99 going by that figure), or actually screw us over on the exchange rate. (Then again, a sign swap means the Europeans get screwed over instead.)

When I first saw the flash on the TM site, I figured $400-500 USD for it.
Only a guess of course. I just have a feeling it will be pretty expensive.

Even though I bought a G940, I am still very interested in the WH. It just appears to be something I would really enjoy having, as long as all the switches can be assigned easily in DX. If it is user friendly, works in most any flight sim and has no major design flaws, I could see it as a long term piece of equipment. So even if a good bit more pricey than many HOTAS systems, I would consider that acceptable.

If it is indeed in that price range, then the only chance I have of affording it is to sell off my FCC-modded Cougar and +HS-modded RCS, and I don't feel very comfortable with that just yet, if only because I got a pretty good deal on it to begin with given the force sensor mod.

This is what piggy banks are for! How many kids you guys have? My first child is still unborn but there went her college fund!

3 kids, a new house very soon and the wifes birthday....its a shame she won't get anything from me this year other than a TM Warthog....hehehehe!

Just kidding honey!

Better than a bowling ball with your name on it!

Spring 2010 means anything up to june 20th?

This waiting is frustrating. First it was exciting to see that flash ad in Thrustmaster's website, now plain annoying, because there is no real info about it. We've been "teasered" long enough(about six months).