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2013. Not old? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL-2_Sturmovik:_Great_Battles#IL-2_Sturmovik:_Battle_of_Stalingrad  
US federal spending per person per year, in constant 2025 dollars:
1925 - $153.00
2025 - $20,497.00
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It is the probably the best looking WWII flight sim out there (with Campaigns) at the moment. (I can't speak for DCS, as I don't play it.) Do yourself a favor and wait until this Friday (Black Friday). Steam will most likely have the IL2-GB series on sale. I loaded up on all kinds of modules last year. Better to buy IL2-1946 for $10 on Steam or GOG than bother with the freeware games you linked. There are fantastic mods out there. It will save you a hassle dealing with old versions of IL2 (original), when modding.
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2013. Not old? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL-2_Sturmovik:_Great_Battles#IL-2_Sturmovik:_Battle_of_Stalingrad You need a new hobby.
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Some people just beg to be put back on my ignore list and I am more than happy to oblige.
US federal spending per person per year, in constant 2025 dollars:
1925 - $153.00
2025 - $20,497.00
"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz (RIP)
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Some people just beg to be put back on my ignore list and I am more than happy to oblige. OH NO. Not that !
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OK, let's bring the temperature down.
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OK, let's bring the temperature down.
No problem.
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If you are an Amazon Prime member, Prime Gaming is offering WRC 9 for free. Ends in 10 days.
Also Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition. Ends in 10 days.
The service seems to give away free game addons more than full games. But if You Have Amazon Prime. they are included in your membership.
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If you want a later version 109 that's more complicated there's always DCS https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/planes/kurfurst/I'd really recommend someone new to flight sims to go the IL2 route though. DCS is expensive and complicated.
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DCS is expensive and complicated. It also has no career mode, no campaign mode and no single missions unless you make them yourself. DCS is really WW II "a la carte" right now and it's very far from being a sim.
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NoFlyBoy. If the BF 109 is your main interest, and you want a dynamic campaign, Wings Over The Reich is the answer. It might not be as pretty as the IL-2 GB series, (it still looks very good, and will get better) but it more than makes up with it in game play. Strictly a singleplayer sim. It is an excellent price too. OBD is switching their attention to WOTR. There is a Battle Of France addon coming shortly. OBD spend many years lovingly working on the WWI, Wing Over Flanders Fields sim. It is very highly regarded in the flight sim community. WOTR has a very bright future. Wings Over The Reich Also, their forum is a kind and welcoming place.
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I agree with Wango Tango. As a very inexperienced beginner, I have found the game to be of excellent quality and the forum very helpful and tolerant of my noobie questions.
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DCS is expensive and complicated. It also has no career mode, no campaign mode and no single missions unless you make them yourself. DCS is really WW II "a la carte" right now and it's very far from being a sim. It's very much a sim, just not much else.
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This is known as "bad luck.”
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IL-2 has a dynamic pilot career as one option, and then another--best--are the quick missions you can select that randomize your encounter every time.
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IL-2 has a dynamic pilot career as one option, and then another--best--are the quick missions you can select that randomize your encounter every time. IL-2 with BAT is great.
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IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Normandy %20 off on Steam. LINK
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I bought it and was disappointed. No campaign. Nice to fly over, lots of planes to set up for flights, but I was really hoping for some campaigns.
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I bought it and was disappointed. No campaign. Nice to fly over, lots of planes to set up for flights, but I was really hoping for some campaigns.
I'll wait till is goes on a good Steam sale. Better than %20. I have all the other campaign modules, but I bought then at 75 to 80% off. There is not enough RAF content (overall, not BON) which is what interests me.
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