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It is really strange, at first I thought it is a purely KRO bug.
But finally I have conducted one test - acquired SR-71 (AS-3), launched a missile, when the target started jamming I switched on POMECHA switch and re-acquired the target (AS-4) and waited. The only launched missile (with POISK V VKL and AS-3) in the moment of reacquistion of the target switched off KRO transmitter and GSN reacquired the target! After some time the target was destroyed with this missile. No other missile was launched.
So this behavior is strongly unprobable. How the missile could know that GSN of missile in flight has to switch to home on jam mode?
----- EDIT After SR-71 started jamming I have not touched anything except POMECHA switch, AS-4 switch (fi indicator is lit) and AS-RPC. NO PROLONG, NO GSN mode change or anything else. Everything remained in the same positions as in the moment of launch.
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I assume you know and just didn't choose to simulate it, but the fuse settings knob for the SA-2 doesn't really do anything different with most settings.
The proximity fuse will never detonate from ground reflections, no matter how low your target is, even if you have the fuse set to normal. And the proxmity fuse will still trigger against targets beyond 100m, even if the fuse is set to low sensitivity mode.
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I assume you know and just didn't choose to simulate it, but the fuse settings knob for the SA-2 doesn't really do anything different with most settings.
The proximity fuse will never detonate from ground reflections, no matter how low your target is, even if you have the fuse set to normal. And the proxmity fuse will still trigger against targets beyond 100m, even if the fuse is set to low sensitivity mode. Hi, Mdore! Could you be more specific about the mission, type of missiles used etc... A good old AAR is also welcome!.. P.S. Gotta have a PM from me.... 
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The second test - I have not reacquired the target in POMECHA mode and the launched missile was lost - once the target slips out of the RPC beam, the missile is lost.
I will now try to launch a missile in home on jam mode and switch off the RPC to see if it will hit the target.
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It is strange, missile launched in home on jam mode, transmitter switched off, also CU off and there were TWO KRO signals appeared. Either there is a bug or the missile must keep receiving RPC signal even when in home in jam mode.
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Another bug, which accounts probably to lack of variable resetting when SAMSIM is not restarted after a mission (some knobs and switches remember their settings when replayed the same SAM system).
I have finished testing in Giant reach scenario and then selected Osa in Asuluk, added missiles and targets and during start only the ona panel with SOC indicator was displayed along with an error message (Invalid procedure call) and SAMSIM quits. Then I run SAMSIM again, selected missiles and targets (the same way as above) and everything was OK.
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It is strange, missile launched in home on jam mode, transmitter switched off, also CU off and there were TWO KRO signals appeared. Either there is a bug or the missile must keep receiving RPC signal even when in home in jam mode. I think it is necessary to illuminate the target even when the missile is in HOJ mode (at least in case the jamming is canceled).... Another bug - on USTKA KARAT is not working...
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Yes, probably the missile still needs to receive reference signal directly from RPC using the tail antennas, but I am not sure.
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Yes, probably the missile still needs to receive reference signal directly from RPC using the tail antennas, but I am not sure. Tail antenna? 
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Yes, antennas on the tail wings which is needed to receive base frequency RPC signal for GSN to be able to correctly compute doppler frequency and so on.
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Yes, antennas on the tail wings which is needed to receive base frequency RPC signal for GSN to be able to correctly compute doppler frequency and so on. Are you sure??? Could you show me where it is?
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Another bug, which accounts probably to lack of variable resetting when SAMSIM is not restarted after a mission (some knobs and switches remember their settings when replayed the same SAM system).
I have finished testing in Giant reach scenario and then selected Osa in Asuluk, added missiles and targets and during start only the ona panel with SOC indicator was displayed along with an error message (Invalid procedure call) and SAMSIM quits. Then I run SAMSIM again, selected missiles and targets (the same way as above) and everything was OK. Yeah, I put extraordinary efforts on resetting situations, but it still not 100%. Sorry I feel 
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It is strange, missile launched in home on jam mode, transmitter switched off, also CU off and there were TWO KRO signals appeared. Either there is a bug or the missile must keep receiving RPC signal even when in home in jam mode. I think it is necessary to illuminate the target even when the missile is in HOJ mode (at least in case the jamming is canceled).... Another bug - on USTKA KARAT is not working... Ustka Karat (target launching ship)  Can you be a bit more specific?
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Ustka Karat (target launching ship)  Can you be a bit more specific? Yep, sorry... Choose P-15 as a target and work on it.... no target, no missile trails...
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I finds something strange in sa8 non historical scenario.... When u play you missions in Libya For example sa2... You take harm missile after few seconds Its normal !! Okay
But in Libya with sa8 ...you take a harm exactly right after turning on transmitter Without any delay !!!
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But in Libya with sa8 ...you take a harm exactly right after turning on transmitter Without any delay !!!
A good old AAR is always welcome...
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farokh: after WHICH transmitter on did you receive a HARM? Remember that even a SOC is a magnet for HARM (works in a cm range).
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I finds something strange in sa8 non historical scenario.... When u play you missions in Libya For example sa2... You take harm missile after few seconds Its normal !! Okay
But in Libya with sa8 ...you take a harm exactly right after turning on transmitter Without any delay !!!
But in Libya with sa8 ...you take a harm exactly right after turning on transmitter Without any delay !!!
A good old AAR is always welcome... this is my result ! 2:00am 15th of April, 1986. Operation El-Dorado Canyon raid against Benghazi. Targets: Jamahiriyah barracks - 6 A-6E Intruder (from the CV-66 USS America) Benghazi AFB - 6 A-6E Intruder (from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) Supporting force: 8 SEAD F/A-18A Hornet (VMFA-314 Black Knights, VMFA-323 Death Rattlers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 2 SEAD A-7E Corsair-II (VA-46 Clansmen, VA-72 Blue Hawks from the CV-66 USS America) 6 CAP F/A-18A Hornet (VFA-131 Wildcats, VFA-132 Privateers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 3 ECM EA-6B Prowler (VAQ-135 Rooks, VMAQ-2 Playboys from both carriers) 1 SIGINT EA-3B Skywarrior (VQ-2 Sandeman from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 2 AWACS E-2C Hawkeye (VAW-127 Seabats from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea) 9K33M2 OSA-AK +++++++++++++++++ 00:00:02, SNR ON AIR00:03:54, F/A-18A Hornet No.1, VMFA-314 Black Knights launched AGM-88 HARM missile No. 1 Total, SNR On Air Time: 3min 52sec 
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I can see the HARM was launched 3:52 after SNR on 
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