homepage Forums Air Combat & Civil Aviation DCS World DCS WWII: Europe 1944 Luthier out. ED is in.

Ghost, yes. (As long as it is actually finished at that time.)

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Thanks for the fast answer.
I just post here, because, Matt write: No discussion!

Good riddance luthier.

His involvement was always my main reservation about this project.

Now he's gone I don't really care about the money.

I think we are owed an explanation of what happened but.

goodbye modern warfare?

We won't discuss what lead to this state of affairs. But we will most certainly "discuss" (so to speak) what you need to get what you have paid for.

Please understand that however much we may want to "talk", we are unable. Sorry.

That assumes that Luthier was ever going to deliver the project on time in the first place. That was always a major question mark - even more so now.

The good news is that we now have a significantly better chance of actually getting our hands on this sim AND at an ED level of quality.

All in all, I see this as a massive win.

My only reservation is the extra strain on ED's finite finances. Hopefully they're not overextending themselves.

Sounds nothing like that...

Ha! Yeah, I was going to say the exact same thing.

Wondering what has happened to the kickstarter cash?

Is DCS now picking up the cost of funding this whole project to protect their good name?

Given that the Kickstarter cash was supposed to fund development - i.e. pay wages etc - I suspect most of it has been spent.

Has it?

Given what's gone on I don't think some transparency would go amiss.

What wage did Luthier pay himself out of the funds raised for example?

Have you ever seen developers discussing such things in public?

The only person to ask is Luthier....

Nate

According to Luthier, the cash was actually supposed to be used for an extended period of polish. That made sense to me in that $150,000 is a pretty trivial amount of money in game development.

Well that's what I'm asking. Do we know if DCS is effectively funding this project out of their own pocket?

I trust that if there are irregularities here the appropriate avenues are being pursued.

Look at it from the bright side, you'll be getting dozens of WW2 warbirds in the next year or so.

Ohh, you don't like them? You've been supporting ED for a long time and have been buying every product so far, even the stand-alone rehashes of FCx, even if you don't fly them, just because you've hoped for a new DCS modern jet?

Well too bad mister, better learn to love propeller planes, because you'll be getting a lot of them.

Fortunately as a virtual viperdriver I do not have to wait until DCS will produce something modern again.
I also have never bought a FC aircraft or other aircraft which I am not interested in (P51). DCS going ww2 just means that I can save my money while enjoying my f16 sim.

Remember the PFM flanker update is on its way. So don't be hasty about ED going into WW2 aircraft only. We also have the Mig 21 on the way.

New flight models are not new content. F-15, Su-27, A-10A, Mig-29 and Su-25 have been around since 2003 and they use the same avionics as they did 11 years ago. They are not new or interesting in any way. The stand-alone titles of FC planes are the fifth (5!!) incarnation of the old Lomac planes. In 11 years, we didn't get a single new modern air-frame in this series. Just remakes, derivatives and upgrades of the same old line-up.
Now they've been teasing us with F-18C for 3 years and now we get to hear that they'll focus on WW2 birds first...
That's horrible.