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Hpasp #3589913 06/11/12 03:19 PM
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Again, I really think it is an OK risk to take. The ZSU-23-4 is not all that proliferate, and now that the War on Terrorism is getting to the stage where terrorists are decentralizing and attacks are getting more individual based and less ambitious, I don't see a problem for you at all, Hpasp.

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Don't forget that SHILKA is still in service... And if Hungarian army decided to use it in the future = stopping the project... thumbsup

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Originally Posted By: piston79
Don't forget that SHILKA is still in service... And if Hungarian army decided to use it in the future = stopping the project... thumbsup


very well ! dear pistion said shilka is stiill in servis ! so this is very good reason to cancel shillka

because we respect to any system in servis wave2 this from this biggrin


Originally Posted By: jazjar
Please name a situation Hpasp, why you deny us the Shilka, most aricraft fly higher than shilka's maximum shooting altitude except when they are landing. Also arkhangelask, remember that the SA-6 is continually receiving upgrades and will be in the Air Defence forces for a long time, only expansion opportunities are really in American SAMS, specifically the MIM-114. My guess is also that the SA-8 is secret as well.


jazjar ... hey man... u bring me down of my dream sicko because i thinked sa-6 could be add in sim around maybe 2013 or 14 !

and this from this too biggrin


my result : so guys please dont speak around develop new russian system biggrin im not sure but i dont know after nike hercules what we have at future! mayhap patriot as a game !

please calm down evry body biggrin i choose sa-2 biggrin this is very cool system

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It may be a bit difficult to paste the link, since the forum doesn't support the Cyrillic script and the movie is Soviet (1964), but I'll try anyway.

www dot youtube dot com slash watch?v=KtyhbSMmDyM

If the link doesn't work or is removed, send me a PM

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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
It may be a bit difficult to paste the link, since the forum doesn't support the Cyrillic script and the movie is Soviet (1964), but I'll try anyway.

www dot youtube dot com slash watch?v=KtyhbSMmDyM

If the link doesn't work or is removed, send me a PM

Here, let's try that:
How to: Do some repairs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtyhbSMmDyM#t=38m55s
How to: Intercept a practice target http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtyhbSMmDyM#t=48m08s
How to: Intercept an aircraft http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtyhbSMmDyM#t=1h07m06s

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Hpasp #3590046 06/11/12 06:21 PM
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I feel like a FAC... I mark targets, you pinpoint them smile

Hpasp #3590048 06/11/12 06:23 PM
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Haha, and Hpasp probably is going to shoot them down with pointing out the factual errors in the movie.

Hpasp #3590051 06/11/12 06:25 PM
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Ha ha you mean the student surpassed the (Soviet) teacher? smile

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Great Movie...

... pretty interesting, that the panel before the actor, has SOME similarity to a real Volhov FCO panel.
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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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Well, at least I learned how to pronounce PUSHK. biggrin

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So these old movies have some use after all smile

Hpasp #3590091 06/11/12 07:20 PM
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Ok, let's relax a bit after a long day...

More exciting footage of missile technology, ATMs this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzkO1OTlAbs#t=1m


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"4 batteries[SA-6] (each consisting of multiple launch units) - Will probably be replaced by US-made Patriot systems." Hmm... I don't know milang wink Wikipedia

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jazjar #3590431 06/12/12 11:16 AM
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yeah... i read this news on wikipedia! but no date time include for when it happend done!

Originally Posted By: jazjar
"4 batteries[SA-6] (each consisting of multiple launch units) - Will probably be replaced by US-made Patriot systems." Hmm... I don't know milang wink Wikipedia

Hpasp #3590594 06/12/12 04:14 PM
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guys.. do u know about this warhead picture !?

i mean that 6 green ball's! thats a fregments? popcorn i think thats green ball no looks like a fregment ! whats that? confused



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I think this is a seeker and guidance section of a Russian anti radiation missile.

Yes, its a passive seeker for Kh-31
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-31

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I count 7 passive elements, rather than 6.

This is the guidance section, the warhead is in the next section aft, the missile propulsion configuration is solid fuel booster and four sustainer ramjets.

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Originally Posted By: milang
guys.. do u know about this warhead picture !?

i mean that 6 green ball's! thats a fregments? popcorn i think thats green ball no looks like a fregment ! whats that? confused

Click to reveal..



Monopulse guidance head of a (Russian) Anti Radiation Missile.

The ARM guidance head is usually based on monopulse method (same as used with the KRUG system [YOU SHOULD KNOW IT ALREADY!!!]), as the targeted SAM system can be switched off at any moment.

Here is the guidance head of (our best friend biggrin ) the AGM-88 HARM missile...


... it has four spiral antenna, with offset center.


Each of the wideband spiral antenna has offset center, so they can precisely locate any SINGLE incoming radio impulse.


Russians use less effective method of bigger shifted and smaller (less sensitive) spiral antenna design...
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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yes yes... that is a 7 elements... my mistake.. tnx for answer me dear lieste and dear vympler also tnx mr.hpasp
i like that your word hahaha our best firend ! means AGM 88 ... duckhunter
Originally Posted By: Lieste
I count 7 passive elements, rather than 6.

This is the guidance section, the warhead is in the next section aft, the missile propulsion configuration is solid fuel booster and four sustainer ramjets.

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
The ARM guidance head is usually based on monopulse method (same as used with the KRUG system [YOU SHOULD KNOW IT ALREADY!!!]), as the targeted SAM system can be switched off at any moment.


In fact most if not all modern radar guided missiles use a monopulse antenna design. Let's see if someone starts building AESA-radared missiles ... biggrin

Thanks for the pic BTW, I had not seen that antenna before.


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