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Hpasp #3513624 02/07/12 06:33 PM
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Thank's Hpasp

is Habu simulated in Ashuluk?

do you plane for simulate ALL Functionality off theses systems, or just needed knobs and switches to Fire missiles, and hit targets only.

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Originally Posted By: max2012

I do not understand why the caution!


just because the hardness to shutdown Habu, you must be a "pin-point" FCO to have it, no more !

as Piston79 Do!


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Good Piston79!

Simply Super finally got it.

SR-71 has got to lunch!

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yeah

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Piston 79 still managed to shoot it down!

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Warning, please practice strict emission control...
... or you will face this:

Quote:
2:00am 15th of April, 1986.
Operation El-Dorado Canyon raid against Benghazi.

Targets:
Jamahiriyah barracks - 6 A-6E Intruder (VA-34 Blue Blasters from the CV-66 USS America)
Benghazi AFB - 6 A-6E Intruder (VA-34 Blue Blasters from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)

Supporting force:
8 SEAD F/A-18A Hornet (VMFA-314 Black Knights, VMFA-323 Death Rattlers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
2 SEAD A-7E Corsair-II (VA-46 Clansmen, VA-72 Blue Hawks from the CV-66 USS America)
6 CAP F/A-18A Hornet (VFA-131 Wildcats, VFA-132 Privateers from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
3 ECM EA-6B Prowler (VAQ-135 Rooks, VMAQ-2 Playboys from both carriers)
1 SIGINT EA-3B Skywarrior (VQ-2 Sandeman from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)
2 AWACS E-2C Hawkeye (VAW-127 Seabats from the CV-43 USS Coral Sea)

S-75M3 Volkhov


00:03:29, A-7E Corsair-II, VA-46 Clansmen launched AGM-88 HARM missile.


00:03:42, SNR knocked out by HARM.


Total, SNR On Air Time: 28sec

Shooting the Habu with Dvina will bee seen as easy money...
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Did you see HARM, or they hit you from behind?

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is SR-71 simulated in Ashuluk??

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WAY TO GO, Piston!! Congratulations, finally someone got that SR-71 with the Dvina! Great job thumbsup


Originally Posted By: Hpasp

(I think, that the second salvo was against the Geneva Convention...)


Piston can always claim that he was trying to make some "Swiss Cheese" (to be served at the Geneva Convention) hahaha


Hehe, if it was me I think that I would even launch more missile (all possible missiles) at that SR-71 because of all the frustration that I sufered with it in the past ar15

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is SR-71 simulated in Ashuluk??
No...
Best substitute is F-104 "The Widow maker"

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

(I think, that the second salvo was against the Geneva Convention...)


"My father teached me to chop it 'till see the head separated from the body..."
Dilber Tanas

Anyway, ricnunes, you're right, but often emotions are not so good advisor... I've told you about my first kill against it and how I've lost my last missile (but Geneva convention wins!) wink

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Interestingly I found that looking at this table Dvina !

Here the picture!

It was looking just Super !







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Interestingly I found that looking at this table Dvina !
Here the picture!
It was looking just Super !


MAX, could you send me the whole file, please.... And please, put those picture like spoiled text, your posts are too big and too many... thumbsup

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Of course I can send !

Where the issue is your E-Mail?

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Originally Posted By: max2012

Of course I can send !

Where the issue is your E-Mail?


can you share all, for all member's forum? please !

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Hi Hpasp,
can you ad simulate Habu SR-71 as an training target in Ashuluk or in Utska?
I know it never exist in real polygon, but still interesting to be simulated.

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Hi, Hpasp, just reloading a question:

Is that true? Could you check it with your sources?

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Second note said that in "Boynaya rabota" mode and switched on "RS" ("AS") on "I62" panel, changing from 150 to 75 km mode goes automatic...

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Second note said that in "Boynaya rabota" mode and switched on "RS" ("AS") on "I62" panel, changing from 150 to 75 km mode goes automatic...

Yes, similarly to the Neva.


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Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Now I must ask is that going to change in the next version? Personnaly I don't mind if it stays like it is now...

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Subsonic target UPR point is closer to the target. It can be less than 4 degree, depending on the P.
Supersonic target UPR point is further to the target. It can be more than 4 degree, but the system allows the missile max 4 degree.
When the missile is flying at less than 4 degree, than it is directly goes towards the UPR point.
When the missile is flying at 4 degree, than the UPR point is at probably more than 4 degree, just the system limits its lead angle.



This guidance method is simply UPR, just adding a Constant "K" into elevation, depending the distance of the missile to the range boresight.
If the missile - boresight distance is larger than 10km, it adds 1.2 degree to the elevation boresight.
From 10km, it gradually reduces this Constant to 0 degree. (at 5km it is 0.6 degree)


Seems that in ver. 923.0, in jamming enviroment, K became like T/T with 1.2 degrees, and UPR is just like T/T. Still they react on distance boresight. If UPR is based on real target speed, (not angular speed) of the target and Parameter (this should be important only for the azymuth lead) against SNR,I believe - based ot what I've learned from this topic that UPR/K behavior in 923.3 is WRONG due to denial of speed and parameter information because of active jaming and must be corrected.
I would be glad if anybody shares his own observations. yep

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I think I find a bug...


This is AAR (on the picture you can see the seccond salvo):

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Asuluk training ground.

Practice target:
RM-205 Kunica simulating F-104 Starfighter

SA-75M Dvina


00:30, Practice target RM-205 Kunica simulating F-104 Starfighter launched

57:06, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 68km
Target azimuth: 70�
Target elevation: 16�
Target altitude: 19,6km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


57:14, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 62km
Target azimuth: 71�
Target elevation: 17�
Target altitude: 19,1km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


57:20, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 57km
Target azimuth: 71�
Target elevation: 18�
Target altitude: 18,5km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


58:11, Missile exploded on Channel-3
Practice target RM-205 Kunica simulating F-104 Starfighter killed by SAM. (miss distance: 15m)

58:15, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 51km
Target azimuth: 80�
Target elevation: 33�
Target altitude: 28,5km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


58:22, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 51km
Target azimuth: 81�
Target elevation: 35�
Target altitude: 29,8km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


58:28, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 51km
Target azimuth: 83�
Target elevation: 37�
Target altitude: 31,4km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


58:55, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target RM-205 Kunica simulating F-104 Starfighter killed by SAM. (miss distance: 4m)

58:58, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target RM-205 Kunica simulating F-104 Starfighter killed by SAM. (miss distance: 5m)

59:04, Missile exploded on Channel-3
Practice target RM-205 Kunica simulating F-104 Starfighter killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 3min 16sec


Note, that the target is not tracket on distance at the moment of impacts, and the guidance method is K and UPR

I've tracked on beta, epsilon and distance 'till launching of the first missile, than switched off the distance tracking... Radiofuse activation mode - "11 seconds".
It looks like system "memorized" target speed and path, and adjust missiles to the target, even when not tracked on distance...
It coudn't be because it is trackin on last known delta, right? Because I switched off tracking, not ANTENA..?
I've tried in Ustka also, and hit an AA missile from MiG-21...
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Edit: Check this one too:
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Asuluk training ground.

Practice target:
RM-207 Sobol simulating F-4 Phantom

SA-75M Dvina


00:30, Practice target RM-207 Sobol simulating F-4 Phantom launched

44:52, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 100km
Target azimuth: 77�
Target elevation: 16�
Target altitude: 27,5km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


44:58, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 100km
Target azimuth: 77�
Target elevation: 16�
Target altitude: 28,5km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


45:06, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 100km
Target azimuth: 77�
Target elevation: 16�
Target altitude: 29,1km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


45:53, Missile exploded on Channel-3
Practice target RM-207 Sobol simulating F-4 Phantom killed by SAM. (miss distance: 60m)

45:58, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 100km
Target azimuth: 80�
Target elevation: 24�
Target altitude: 42,1km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


46:04, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 100km
Target azimuth: 80�
Target elevation: 26�
Target altitude: 44,8km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


46:10, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 100km
Target azimuth: 81�
Target elevation: 27�
Target altitude: 46,5km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead)


46:32, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target RM-207 Sobol simulating F-4 Phantom killed by SAM. (miss distance: 32m)

46:37, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target RM-207 Sobol simulating F-4 Phantom killed by SAM. (miss distance: 8m)

46:43, Missile exploded on Channel-3
Practice target RM-207 Sobol simulating F-4 Phantom killed by SAM. (miss distance: 3m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 3min 16sec


I don't track it on distance at all... Even not using CU (IADS) to acquire (to check that CU didn't translate any data to SA-75m/mk). Tommorow I'll do some tests again, but definitelly something is wrong...

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Question about Piston79?

What's the error I do not understand you can explain!

What's up with the method of K or T / T is not so I do not quite understand!

What are the problems with the F-104 and F-4 Phantom!

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