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One of WD's most recent posts actually persuaded me for a second, I thought, "Yeah, okay, this guy is making his point well" but straight after it was back to the type of behaviour that throws up a thread called "What Spitfire Donkey D#ck decided to mess up 4.11 ?".
What an amazingly unhelpful way to promote your own cause. Straight off the bat you have immediately offended anyone with the power to actually change it and alienated anyone here who admires at least a modicum of restraint and reasonable behaviour.
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One of WD's most recent posts actually persuaded me for a second, I thought, "Yeah, okay, this guy is making his point well" but straight after it was back to the type of behaviour that throws up a thread called "What Spitfire Donkey D#ck decided to mess up 4.11 ?".
What an amazingly unhelpful way to promote your own cause. Straight off the bat you have immediately offended anyone with the power to actually change it and alienated anyone here who admires at least a modicum of restraint and reasonable behaviour. + 1
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One of WD's most recent posts actually persuaded me for a second, I thought, "Yeah, okay, this guy is making his point well" but straight after it was back to the type of behaviour that throws up a thread called "What Spitfire Donkey D#ck decided to mess up 4.11 ?".
What an amazingly unhelpful way to promote your own cause. Straight off the bat you have immediately offended anyone with the power to actually change it and alienated anyone here who admires at least a modicum of restraint and reasonable behaviour.
+1 as well. I have not had much time to play the latest 4.11 patch so I've been following this thread reluctantly in case there may be some useful discussion and discovery of problems/solutions. Now it just feels like walking into a Chuckie Cheese and wondering if I can get a good steak, cold stout and a quiet table......hopeless.  (Oh, and thanks to Team Diaidolos for their contuinued dedication to Il2 and this community) Derek
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You are completely and utterly correct FlatSpinMan.
I had to go on this long conference trip to Frankfurt and I came back to San Diego and wanted to fire up a few of hobbies. Got back on my surfboard and was having an awesome swell until it went bad and took my $500 board with it.
Get back home, break out a beer and sit down to enjoy a bit of good dogfighting in IL2 (the game I learned on way back almost three years ago, now) and saw the 4.11 patch and all the raving, so set it up and I was like, ....
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeshhhh.
Cant a dude get a break from all the 185s and Spit 25lbs and now this. It was that type of day. It is the weakness of my character FSM that I am not known for careful deliberate moderation and tend to be far too blunt and press my attack.
As true as that is, take the Boom and Zoom aircraft in 4.11 and try to use them against a skilled opponent in online play and begin to see the marked difference between 4.11 and 4.10.1. Now take the uber planes and try the same thing, the delta is now much smaller and very, very close to what you have in 4.10.1
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Right now, your a just a bag of hot air and you ain't making many friends round here. I for one will be glad to see the back of you. If he flies a P-51 or some other planes and you're in your prissy little Spit, then you will indeed see the back of him!! And easily I might add.... The fact that this patch is a game changer to some planes and not to others cannot be denied ( except to the people it favors like you because it doesn't affect your fave plane ). Please read my post above about engine power bands. It's obviously made it easier for you in the artificial skies or else why would you be so happy about things? Go for four ace P-51s against four mid to late war AI ace 109s in QMB and then chime back in her later. Maybe we are actually testing out this patch with multiple planes and you're not? P.S.- He seems to have a few more friends in here than you do......BTW!! I don't know who you think you are chum, but you don't know me, you nothing of what I fly or how I choose to engage in this game. Your opinion on those matters therefore is irrelevent to me. My problem did not extend to you till now; it was solely with WDs choice - and I itterate that word CHOICE - in how he delivered his grievance. You got beef with this patch? Fine. You don't think your "fave" plane is doin what it should? Fine. You gather your evidence and present to the GUYS WHO PUT HUNDREDS OF HOURS - FOR FREE - INTO CREATING A FREE ADDON AND IMPROVING THE GAME FOR US ALL. But don't waltz in screaming and throwing a hissy fit and insulting most people in the place - it's rude, inconsiderate and bloody selfish. And if you don't like me pulling someone up for being such an arrogant boor then that's your problem mate not mine. It's people like WD that make this world a difficult place to live. Oh and btw... You really rate someone on what plane he flies? We're back to that Ubizoo crap are we? Jesus. And here was me thinking a man should be judged by his wit, his countenance and his actions. No? Just me then.
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Hopefully, it is people like WD who conduct basic (and we like to think groundbreaking at times) research into major problems that are slowly making our world and human health a better place, but I digress...:)
Fenrir, I dont have a favorite plane. And I do occasionally do some sorties in the spit 25lbs myself or the La7. But at my heart, I am a full real guy who likes long tough fights. When I head into a 20 min fight with someone like 357th_ULTI or IGOR, etc... I need every single tactic I can muster in the playbook. In that arena, it becomes very clear, how badly many of the BnZ planes have been affected while the uber ones really have not suffered much in 4.11 translation. You should also consider the other side of the coin. Any new patch by TD is greeted by waves of kowtowing but I dont automatically give heed because a work is free (or paid for). Count me a skeptic until through testing is done by those online who really can put it right to the max (like the afore mentioned ULTI).
There are probably less than 700 guys world wide who now flying online in any given week, so it wont be the end of the world. Those that love 4.11 can go there and those who liked the ole 4.10.1 can stay there. If I only flew offline, I would LOVE 4.11 I think. But the fights are not even close to a human online ace, so my server will hang with 4.10.1 a bit longer.
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I believe that all your questions/#%&*$#/gripes/complaints were addressed in this post... http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=384102&postcount=3You do realize that 3000M is less than 10K feet, right. On a tropical map, right?
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I like the part about testing overheat at 110% in stall climb. I suppose there's historic data on that?
How many times over the years does 'historic data' really mean interpretation of combat stories?
You got the real data then recreate the real test including flying it the way the very talented test pilot had.
Otherwise you got your own biased, non-objective, flawed, opinion.
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As I thought more about this last night, we are not being handed the keys to a new aircraft by Rosie the Riveter, and only late war Allies, (read the west), and a few high ranking Axis fliers had personal planes, and they were not refurbished after every mission. Reliability is a very good option to have in a game, and so is unreliability.
once again, just my opinion.
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I always give immediate credence when the primary justification for a complaint about the FM/DM of one aircraft is the FM/DM of another.
"The FW is wrong because the Spit is wrong" is the finest logic to use and definately will go a long way to the improvement of the sim.
Or, possibly, the virtual pilot got shot down by a Spit. And it really hurt his feelings.
It's a poor carpenter that blames his tools.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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DART!
(I'm hijacking this thread really quick because it strikes me as a flame fest anyways)
I'm a HUGE fan of yours! I'm a complete newbie who is attempting to learn enough to eventually be confident enough to fly online. Your tutorial videos have really helped me pick up the pace!
Your tutorial on how to attack AA is one of the only reasons I have been able to make it 6 missions in to a dynamic campaign! Thanks for all the work you put into those!
Edit: I try to give myself "a big smile" every time I pull off anything BTW.
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Let me be clear then Dart (thanks for your comments). The FW and TA are messed up because their FM is considerably reduced. Regardless of what the spit or La7 can do.
They have been downgraded. Period.
Fly TA 152 H1 in combat against solid online foe in 4.10.1 and then 4.11.
Big difference.
And it is a shame too, cause the other 75% of patch 4.11 is golden with long requested features.
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Dart, btw, can you use your Admin powers to fix the stickie on installing Ultra Pack, here in the IL2 section ? That is completely out of date.
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BTW WhistlinggDeath... Are you Jay Hall? (Not trying to call you out... Just trying to figure out who wrote the dog fighting .pdf)
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Yes, I am. But that is merely my pen name. You know rule number one, never reveal too much about yourself online (including your real name); most folks are fine and sane, but a few are truly batshit looney.
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One of WD's most recent posts actually persuaded me for a second, I thought, "Yeah, okay, this guy is making his point well" but straight after it was back to the type of behaviour that throws up a thread called "What Spitfire Donkey D#ck decided to mess up 4.11 ?".
What an amazingly unhelpful way to promote your own cause. Straight off the bat you have immediately offended anyone with the power to actually change it and alienated anyone here who admires at least a modicum of restraint and reasonable behaviour. +1 .. 
Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.
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Got a phone interview set up for Friday with Glenn Holcomb. Went to school in Clay County, West Virginia. Entered Army Air Corps thru examination process for talented high school graduates. Attended OCS in Texas and flew B-17 bombers until late 1943. Retrained and started flying the P51 variants during the last half of 1944 and 45. Ended the war a captain, then got a college degree and flew for Delta Airlines until mandatory retirement age of 60, and currently lives just outside Medford, Oregon. His daughter tells me he is of sound mind and still golfs (although, slowly) at age 89.
Will post the interview here and the audio track at Mediafire when I finish.
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Yes, I am. But that is merely my pen name. You know rule number one, never reveal too much about yourself online (including your real name); most folks are fine and sane, but a few are truly batshit looney. That's fantastic! You're .pdf "How to Dog Fight" has also been instrumental in me learning where to start to get the confidence to fly online! I want to thank you so much for that material. It was well written, extremely informative, and gave so much insight to me. Thanks for taking the time to write that. It sure has helped a newb like me along.
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