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Redcoalition, what was your question regarding the S-300? On the manual, S-300 is part of Volhov family, and it's development looks related to the development of 6cm antennas and systems of S-75M3 Volhov. My question is: In what degree the development of S-300 is related with the S-75M3?
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Hi to all!...  For several days I'm looking for one information, but not reached yet! what's the secret in soviet technique names? S-75 / S-200 / S-125? Why "S" ? "75"? "125"? "200"? I searched Mikhail Pervov's Book  (484Pages), but no result! (may be I miss some pages?)
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On the manual, S-300 is part of Volhov family, and it's development looks related to the development of 6cm antennas and systems of S-75M3 Volhov.
My question is: In what degree the development of S-300 is related with the S-75M3?
The S-300P is a completely new system, developed using the lessons learned during the Vietnam War. When the first S-300P version, the S-300PT Biryusa (SA-10A Grumble) fielding started, the development of the S-75M4, and the S-125M2 was immediately scrapped.
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Right ! and means of "75"? why "75" ? and why "125"? any idea dear Master!
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In Poland every village has a SAM site! then you have no joblessness in your country!
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Right ! and means of "75"? why "75" ? and why "125"? Russian system nominations are not usually logical, and sometimes it was used to confuse the enemy. With the air defense systems, they usually simply added 25 to the numbering. S-25 Berkut (SA-1) S-50 Dal (SA-5), cancelled S-75 Dvina/Desna/Volhov (SA-2) S-100 IADS S-125 Neva (SA-3) S-175 Competitor to the KRUG, cancelled S-200 Angara/Vega/Dubna (SA-5) S-225 Azov (ABM-2) competitor to the A-135 ABM system, cancelled S-250 the planned successor of the Neva, cancelled S-300P Biryusa/Volhov-M6 (SA-10) S-300PM Favorit (SA-20) S-400 Triumph (SA-21)
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Not to remain without last word: the only common thing between S-75 and S-300 I see was that at some stage of its development early S-300Px was referred to as Volkhov-M6 (probably to confuse Western intelligence that it was a deep modernization of S-75 -- note the last 'real' one was Volkhov-M4).
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Oh, I see Hpasp was faster with his V-M6  . Guru, could you tell a little bit about such then-planned Neva-M2?
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1101 is a Polish warship, safeguarding the firing range.
1102 is a MiG-21 (Fishbed) fighter, that first fly a parallel path than turns on the SAM battery.
At about 25~30km range, it launches an RS-2US (AA-1 Alkali) short range Air-to-Air missile towards us.
To safeguard the MiG, the missiles has self destruct timers, that blows up over 20km range.
Glad I have just found out about this as I thought also it was a bug, but what is the tgt 1104 that I get everytime, is that the AA missile, and if so why is the tgt number in white and why can I not lock onto it in the IADS screen, or can I only lock onto it manually?
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Oh, I see Hpasp was faster with his V-M6 . Guru, could you tell a little bit about such then-planned Neva-M2? Yes, I am also interested about any info on S-250.
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Russian system nominations are not usually logical, and sometimes it was used to confuse the enemy.
With the air defense systems, they usually simply added 25 to the numbering.
S-25 Berkut (SA-1)
S-50 Dal (SA-5), cancelled
S-75 Dvina/Desna/Volhov (SA-2)
S-100 IADS
S-125 Neva (SA-3)
S-175 Competitor to the KRUG, cancelled
S-200 Angara/Vega/Dubna (SA-5)
S-225 Azov (ABM-2) competitor to the A-135 ABM system, cancelled
S-250 the planned successor of the Neva, cancelled
S-300P Biryusa/Volhov-M6 (SA-10)
S-300PM Favorit (SA-20)
S-400 Triumph (SA-21)
Thank's too much for all this info, it was a logical question in one chapter about "The names of the Military Equipments" for the "Complementary and additive information" Book! your reply will be added as it! (I promise!)  BTW I never heard about S-250 for neva Upgrade' any deep info?
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Just for lol! 
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Yeah, 1104 is the RS-2US (Alkali) missile, you can lock onto it manually, just track the fighter (1102) on your A or Z screen and when you see a new contact separating from it, lock onto it and FIRE!!!
Glad I have just found out about this as I thought also it was a bug, but what is the tgt 1104 that I get everytime, is that the AA missile, and if so why is the tgt number in white and why can I not lock onto it in the IADS screen, or can I only lock onto it manually?
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And he didn't believe them when they told him that radar radiation can be bad for his health... Just for lol!
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Oh, I see Hpasp was faster with his V-M6 . Guru, could you tell a little bit about such then-planned Neva-M2? Please stop Guruing...  The S-125M2 Neva development was also scrapped during 1978. It contained mainly those advances to the operator panels, that you as an expert virtual FCO would really appreciate. Volhov style Elevation and Azimuth indicators.  The target flight parameter instruments gone below to the UK31.  Volhov style "target throw over" possibility from the acquisition radar. 
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Yes, I am also interested about any info on S-250. To improve the detection range of very low flying targets (cruise missiles), the plan was to elevate the SNR.  This concept was further improved with the S-300P mobile elevated masts (40V6). 
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I still have some (idiotic) questions. g.e, i never understood very well the Plotting Table indicators.. I thought "Own Target" is the designated target to the battery. But i found a Su-22 on Hungary being considerated "Own Target", how is that possible, what's the definition of "Own Target"? Also, what's a "supervisor target" and a "rule violator target"? That info would be useful for the translation, I fear doing a "word-by-word" translation and lose the real meaning of the words... Thank You once again
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I still have some (idiotic) questions. g.e, i never understood very well the Plotting Table indicators.. I thought "Own Target" is the designated target to the battery. But i found a Su-22 on Hungary being considerated "Own Target", how is that possible, what's the definition of "Own Target"? Also, what's a "supervisor target" and a "rule violator target"? That info would be useful for the translation, I fear doing a "word-by-word" translation and lose the real meaning of the words... Thank You once again 0 � jamming target 1 � friendly target (our armed fighter) 2 � identified target (our unarmed fighter with IFF on) 3 � border violator (previously unannounced target, that violated our airspace. This is when the adrenalin started...) 4 � supervisor target (WarPact level target to check the air defense readiness. You need to imitate missile launches against it, and prove it later.) 5 � own target (our fighter flying to practice the air defense batteries) 6 � rule violator target (our civil or fighter plane, in a wrong place or altitude) 7 � practice target ("paper dragon", target exist only on the plotting board) 8 � enemy (wartime, shot at it with live missile) 9 � target without IFF (our unarmed fighter with IFF off)
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