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Hpasp #3353943 07/28/11 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Just keep asking... thumbsup

there are several questions in "waiting list", already posted,
but still not answered yet!
maybe you are so busy (with vacation or SA-2), and just answer important questions only!

(I'm waiting for Krug (SA-4B) and V-200VE (SA-5B) to start Fr - Ar translation)
translation of SA-2 and SA-3 go well, (80% , 60% for FR), (50% , 40% for Ar)
but still very huge work in case of a lot of informations in manuals,
I have no prob. with technical words in both languages but maybe
manuals need some reorganisation, I'm working in translation and "some fine Idea" to keep
manual's easy to read and understood and light, .... reading
even the Idea of MK_PL in adding some important information discussed in this forum,
(but not important for operators players), is in my to do list in this Idea ...
when you see the fist release of this Idea, you will be happy (I hope)

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this is the preview of my "Idea", I still working on it, with tree languages,


when it will be ready with "Core" information, Hpasp can released it, (if he want)
in this stage, i'm working with this huge of information under my hands ..

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Yet another question... as regards the Giant Reach scenario.

I'm tracking the SR-71 (target No 1301) with the use of IADS. But then I changed my mind and I wanted to track another target, for example 1306, 3203 or 3304. But it seems impossible. I clicked the red buttons of AC3, V-MD, D-MD, CZU VKL, etc., but I can't track another target. Can't move the speed gate or change radar bearing.
I even switched to the KI-2202V panel ('W') and started to move the switches from GOTOV and POLN to VYKL, to no avail.
The radar was still working.
Pressing the red buttons - no effect (except for the second from the left, of course).

Well, maybe I'm doing something wrong. So:
- is it possible to shoot down any other plane in this scenario?
- is it possible to switch to another target and track it with the use of IADS?

No more questions so far smile

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The cover looks niiiiice.


Originally Posted By: Kairo
this is the preview of my "Idea", I still working on it, with tree languages,


when it will be ready with "Core" information, Hpasp can released it, (if he wont)
in this stage, i'm working with this huge of information under my hands ..

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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Niiiiice.
Will there be separate language versions or you will mix all the languages together? smile
Sorry for that cruel joke smile

Mix all the languages together will be 100x difficult to do!



It will be in Tree separate Languages, and sorry for others languages,I know only these tree!
and only if Hpasp want to released it !

just few Pic's of Fr Translation









all manuals will be logically coloured to help understood of "means" !

this is the finest Idea! what do think about!

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This is commendable. Will you add information from the forum as well?

Originally Posted By: Kairo

this is the finest Idea! what do think about!

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
The elevation manual angle tracker is sitting first. (check the Vietnamese photo)
He has only the epsilon screen, always in 5km magnification, and the karat tv.
Them sits the range tracker. He can choose the epsilon, or the beta image to his screen.
The last one is the azimuth tracker with a tv also.
They have to track the target between two line (rather than a boresight).
With their big wheels, they change the snr rotation speed, rather than setting its direction.
The neva is similar, just there the two manual tracker is called fi1, fi2, and the fco is the range tracker. (thus the bigger wheel)


Would it possible to simulate at least some of this fun like this (on Volhov) - this example assumes you want to play the Range Tracker:
1) Designate the target the I-32V and I-62V positions as normal (line up, then right click) in elevation and azimuth, but DO NOT lock range. Alternatively, you can have the correct range-rate set initially (so you only have to correct for changes rather than setting it up from zero) by briefly locking up range and then breaking it)
2) Jump to Range Tracking Screen and chase the target with the range-rate wheel. Elevation and Azimuth are effectively in AS-AP.
3) If you want to leave Range Tracking (to play Elevation tracker or to prepare missiles), if your boresight is on the target, you can right click to shift to AS-AP, then you can leave. Otherwise, the range rate will be the last input value and will deviate from the target.

Last edited by arkhangelsk; 07/29/11 05:39 AM. Reason: A simpler implementation
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there are several questions in "waiting list", already posted,
but still not answered yet!
maybe you are so busy (with vacation or SA-2), and just answer important questions only!

(I'm waiting for Krug (SA-4B) and V-200VE (SA-5B) to start Fr - Ar translation)
translation of SA-2 and SA-3 go well, (80% , 60% for FR), (50% , 40% for Ar)
but still very huge work in case of a lot of informations in manuals,
I have no prob. with technical words in both languages but maybe
manuals need some reorganisation, I'm working in translation and "some fine Idea" to keep
manual's easy to read and understood and light, .... reading
even the Idea of MK_PL in adding some important information discussed in this forum,
(but not important for operators players), is in my to do list in this Idea ...
when you see the fist release of this Idea, you will be happy (I hope)



Actually Im on vacation dance , and my handheld has sometimes problems to download pages with big pictures.
Middle of next week, I will be back.


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Hpasp, are you sure?
We'll keep asking... for time compression, 3D graphics, S-300... smile
Ok just kidding.

Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Just keep asking... thumbsup



I have no problem to write an S-300 simulator, just need a few things...
... firing manuals, photos of the instrument panel, and somebody who already launched a V-500 missile in real life (firing range is ok).
thumbsup

ps: I would launch all target drones in Asuluk at the same time, and engage those with 12 missiles parallel.
grunt


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Kairo #3354284 07/29/11 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: Kairo
this is the preview of my "Idea", I still working on it, with tree languages,


when it will be ready with "Core" information, Hpasp can released it, (if he want)
in this stage, i'm working with this huge of information under my hands ..


thumbsup
It is a HUGE work, that you started.
I will be honored to release it.
thumbsup


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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MK_PL #3354290 07/29/11 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Yet another question... as regards the Giant Reach scenario.

I'm tracking the SR-71 (target No 1301) with the use of IADS. But then I changed my mind and I wanted to track another target, for example 1306, 3203 or 3304. But it seems impossible. I clicked the red buttons of AC3, V-MD, D-MD, CZU VKL, etc., but I can't track another target. Can't move the speed gate or change radar bearing.
I even switched to the KI-2202V panel ('W') and started to move the switches from GOTOV and POLN to VYKL, to no avail.
The radar was still working.
Pressing the red buttons - no effect (except for the second from the left, of course).

Well, maybe I'm doing something wrong. So:
- is it possible to shoot down any other plane in this scenario?
- is it possible to switch to another target and track it with the use of IADS?

No more questions so far smile


It is not really discussed in the documentation, so...
... the third program of the Plamja-KV (Manual page 17 point 3) is the

Target tracking
In this mode, the Plamja-KV is continuously calculating the target's predicted path, and figuring the firing solution based on this information.


If the target is lost, or the target tracking is discontinued, the Plamja goes into the tracking of the predicted path.
This mode is indicated by the Prolong lamp.
Manual Page 30 point 6.

Just press the red button below, to discontinue the running of No3 program.


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Originally Posted By: arkhangelsk


Would it possible to simulate at least some of this fun like this (on Volhov) - this example assumes you want to play the Range Tracker:
1) Designate the target the I-32V and I-62V positions as normal (line up, then right click) in elevation and azimuth, but DO NOT lock range. Alternatively, you can have the correct range-rate set initially (so you only have to correct for changes rather than setting it up from zero) by briefly locking up range and then breaking it)
2) Jump to Range Tracking Screen and chase the target with the range-rate wheel. Elevation and Azimuth are effectively in AS-AP.
3) If you want to leave Range Tracking (to play Elevation tracker or to prepare missiles), if your boresight is on the target, you can right click to shift to AS-AP, then you can leave. Otherwise, the range rate will be the last input value and will deviate from the target.


Adding one manual range tracker station would be similar size of work, than adding a completely new SAM system.
At the beginning, the vote went for more systems rather, and it is more fun for me also. yep
In the far-far future, the addition of network game is possible (currently just blocked out) but in this case operating more batteries by the networked users at wartime scenario is still more fun, than operating only one battery with more people.

Last edited by Hpasp; 07/29/11 07:36 AM.

Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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Kairo, could you add it to your Compendium please? smile

Originally Posted By: Hpasp


It is not really discussed in the documentation, so...
... the third program of the Plamja-KV (Manual page 17 point 3) is the

Target tracking
In this mode, the Plamja-KV is continuously calculating the target's predicted path, and figuring the firing solution based on this information.


If the target is lost, or the target tracking is discontinued, the Plamja goes into the tracking of the predicted path.
This mode is indicated by the Prolong lamp.
Manual Page 30 point 6.

Just press the red button below, to discontinue the running of No3 program.

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Gentlemen, please have a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mu2k6M-es

Now you can laugh at me smile
Comments will be welcome.

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And Kairo, we don't want to work you to death, you know, but maybe the old forum contains useful information as well:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3181836/1.html

Don't forget that you have to eat and sleep as well! smile

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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
This is commendable. Will you add information from the forum as well?


this is why I have this Idea, of course, all information will be added one by one with logical
classification in this manual, to be easy to found and used!

Originally Posted By: MK_PL
And Kairo, we don't want to work you to death, you know, but maybe the old forum contains useful information as well:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3181836/1.html

Don't forget that you have to eat and sleep as well!


yes, from our own forum,
and from the first forum for SAM sim in this site:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3181836/1.html

and also from these one also:
http://forum.index.hu/Article/showArticle?t=9120320
http://forum.fortifikace.net/viewtopic.php?t=574&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180


and all interesting info from some unavoidable site :
http://peters-ada.de/index.htm
http://www.ausairpower.net/
http://infowsparcie.net/wria/menu/pzr.htm


Don't expect this release in few days screwy
I'have working on it since one month, and "basal ready information" in all manuals not ready yet,

All interesting forums or site links are welcome, (not harming links mycomputer)

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Man, this is going to be a bestseller smile

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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

It is a HUGE work, that you started.
I will be honored to release it.
thumbsup


I have done it before, several times in my work area, ... to success
just be patient and have a "guideline how to work", - a programmer's know that-

you can help me with answering my questions with more detailed explanation possible,
(questions about non used panel in S-125 was for this purpose, and same questions are coming for
all others stuff (Volhov, Dvina, -may be desna-, Krug, Vega, Shilka ..... ), just be patient ...
all questions all coming !!


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Originally Posted By: MK_PL
Man, this is going to be a bestseller smile


I really hope that


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Originally Posted By: Hpasp

Adding one manual range tracker station would be similar size of work, than adding a completely new SAM system.
At the beginning, the vote went for more systems rather, and it is more fun for me also. yep
In the far-far future, the addition of network game is possible (currently just blocked out) but in this case operating more batteries by the networked users at wartime scenario is still more fun, than operating only one battery with more people.

For me, adding personalize map for unknown situation will add a 4 Dimension to the Simulator
in this case: how did you made the map in SAM sim??

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