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A Thrustmaster product breaking again.
Well hello boys.
Look cool on the outside,mutton on the inside.
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Perhaps I should wait for the early adopters to sort out their problems while I stick with my Cougar.
I might even mod it a bit further (Hall sensor and anti-stiction for the throttle) before I make any attempts to step up.
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Mine has been running fine (knock on wood), but it seems to be extremely susceptible to static discharge. Twice I've gotten up to attend something while sim'ing, and grabbed the stick or throttle base while sitting back down to re-position them (they're on the same speaker stands I've used for the Cougar for many years) and felt a very small static shock. This was IMMEDIATELY followed by the sad two-tone windows default sound of a removable device being unplugged.
The first occasion I had to restart the FAST service to get it working again, and the second I had to re-plug both devices. Now I'm very, very careful not to grab either control before sitting down and grounding myself. The correlation is very clear.
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Mine has been running fine (knock on wood), but it seems to be extremely susceptible to static discharge. Twice I've gotten up to attend something while sim'ing, and grabbed the stick or throttle base while sitting back down to re-position them (they're on the same speaker stands I've used for the Cougar for many years) and felt a very small static shock. This was IMMEDIATELY followed by the sad two-tone windows default sound of a removable device being unplugged.
The first occasion I had to restart the FAST service to get it working again, and the second I had to re-plug both devices. Now I'm very, very careful not to grab either control before sitting down and grounding myself. The correlation is very clear. Ok so it's not just me, I had the Warthogs and MFDs do that twice now. My rule is no more shoes on while sitting at my desk. No issues when I'm wearing socks.
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Quote: " .....Well, my throttle croaked last night! No USB enumeration going on regardless of which port or even PC I plug it into. Still waiting to hear back from TM support for return information....." Don't forget to try the "Hold trigger closed, pull out USB ...... wait ....... wait ..... wait" (30 sec) and plug it in again. If it wakes your Throttle up, you'll probably have to re-install the drivers (latest available at TM) but that's the easier part. 
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I am leaning towards converting a comfy old glider rocker to my "simpit chair" and mounting the WH in the center stick position as opposed to side stick. A few questions to you who have mounted the WH in the center stick position:
1) Have you encountered any problems going with center mount?
2) Did you rotate the stick for more comfortable grip and does this cause any problems?
3) Where in relation to your knees did you mount the stick (fore and aft) for most comfort/ergonomics?
4) At what height should the stick be mounted in relation to legs/knees for best comfort/ergonomics?
5) Should the stick be mounted parallel to the floor or parallel to the reclined seat cushion?
Thanks for any tips!
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1) Have you encountered any problems going with center mount?
No, I have absolutely no problems.
2) Did you rotate the stick for more comfortable grip and does this cause any problems?
Yes, I've rotated it and it is much more comfortable than the straight direction.
3) Where in relation to your knees did you mount the stick (fore and aft) for most comfort/ergonomics?
I've mounted the stick before the knees.
4) At what height should the stick be mounted in relation to legs/knees for best comfort/ergonomics?
The downside of the mount is in the same level than my legs downside (lol, I don't know is anybody unterstand my words... :D)
5) Should the stick be mounted parallel to the floor or parallel to the reclined seat cushion?
I've mounted in parallel position.
ps.: I've moved my stick into center position after 7 years of side position use. I've found it very comfortable.
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Thanks for the reply Szoltam!
The most important thing in fighting was shooting, next the various tactics in coming into a fight and last of all flying ability itself. � Lt. Colonel W. A. 'Billy' Bishop, RCAF. Lobo's DCS A-10C Normal Checklist & Quick Reference Handbook version 8c now available for download here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/172905/
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Wow, such doom and gloom being posted here just because a few people out of thousands sold are having firmware issues. Surprised theres not even a mention of the quick and easy firmware update in this thread: http://ts.thrustmaster.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=1&fid=3&pid=311&cid=1
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Agreed! This is really the same situation as when a new sim comes out, it's the peeps with problems that are the most vocal. I don't blame them at all cause they are having problems while the rest enjoy of us are enjoying the new software or in this case hardware. Firmware update, assuming Windows sees both controllers, is a breeze! For me, I'm having a great time and progressing slowly with the WH in DCS A10! Good luck to those of you having problems! 
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Well, because i now have the Warthog for exactly one month (and because it's true that you usually read about problems on these forums): No problem whatsoever, i'm very happy with the HOTAS and can highly recommend it  .
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That was (almost) a month ago. Euro date formatting. 12-11 = "12 November".
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Ah, dang Euro format.  That's why I like military date format of 12NOV2010. No room for error!
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For people in the UK: how do people usually deal with this sort of stuff, in Sweden the seller is completely responsible, is Amazon actually expecting me to deal directly with thrustmaster? In the UK we are protected by the Sale of Goods Act. Basically, if a product fails (within the first six months) then it is deemed as faulty from purchase and you are entitled to a full refund or new replacement. The seller is the point of contact/contract (never get fobbed off with dealing direct with the manufacturer). You should only need to contact the seller and request that they arrange collection of the item. They are required to pay for shipping. Of course, this is in the UK. Since you bought it outside of the UK then you are not covered by this directly.
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Thanks Magic Man, yeah I guess I could end up a bit of a gotcha due to that. Anyway I contacted guillemot support and they dispatched a new warthog handle to me (not the whole joystick), should show up in the mail any day now. It took a bit of emailing back and forth, but they took care of the problem, so solid support if not lightning fast. It's just one direction on the countermeasures hat that is dead, so I have continued to use it in the meantime.
Cheers /Per
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No problem.
A heads up to those in the UK, currently down �50 from what Amazon UK originally had it for, currently �279
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And the rest ! Its now down to �199 on Amazon ! ! ! ! Tempted to get another at that price ! Does Amazon know something we don't ?! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thrustmaster-Hot...2018&sr=8-1
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When I updated the firmware of my Cougar I needed to disconnect the throttle from the stick because otherwise there were reports of pot damage.
Do I need to disconnect the Warthog throttle from the stick to have a save firmware update ?
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Well amazon here in the US has them for $499.99 now, I got mine for 523.26 including shipping so the price in the US hasn't changed much.
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When I updated the firmware of my Cougar I needed to disconnect the throttle from the stick because otherwise there were reports of pot damage.
Do I need to disconnect the Warthog throttle from the stick to have a save firmware update ? The Warthog throttle doesn't connect to the stick; the throttle and the stick connect to the PC via seperate and independent USB connections.
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