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Here's a list of things to try to resolve a dead throttle ...

- Test it on another computer
- Plug it directly into a port on the computer (not an external hub, not a port on the 'front' of the computer)
- Hold down the 2 pushbuttons, "Autopilot Engage/Disengage and L/G Wrn Silence" as you plug in the throttle and keep held for +5 seconds
- Request firmware & calibration tools from ThrustMaster, providing as much information as possible about how/when it stopped working

As for my situation, I've connected my throttle numerous times, had it connected through many reboots. It is connected to an external, powered hub. I've only had it die once, and with the tools from TM brought it back online in a jiffy. If those tools aren't working, it may be more serious than a loss of firmware.

We're hardly beta testing ... there are hundreds of Warthogs out there now, and only a few of us are experiencing any difficulty. Frustrating, sure - but let's keep things in perspective.

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We really do not know how many went down. Also it is strange that this is all of a sudden after what you have it for a few days. Not like this happened 6 months down the road. I am glad that your requested firmware and tools worked for you and others. Some of us all of that did not work. As long as it gets fixed or replaced all will be good if they put out a good firmware update for all so they wont have the samr problem down the road. If the beta testers did not have this issue then it looks like a quality issue in China's production.

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TM Support were much more flexible a long time ago. I had problems with potmeters of the Cougar (who didn't...?), I wrote them an email, they asked me to choose: send the stick back or they send me the pots. I choosed the second option, the pots arrived soon, I replaced them and everything was fine. Now there is no reply, no information from TM, and no solutions and this is my main problem. The miss of informations genereates whispers and hoaxes. My WH throttle is still dead.

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szoltam when you go into device manager do you see an entry with a yellow exclamation mark that says Hotas bootloader?

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Thank you for your advice - there are no exclamations in device manager. Nothing happens when I plug in the WH throttle with/without pushed buttons. My PC doesn't recognize any new hardware. The stick works fine, I flashed it with the new firmware - the stick works perfectly, but without the throttle this is not a HOTAS, it's just a masterpiece of applied art. Still no answer from TM Support.

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Originally Posted By: Feed
Here's a list of things to try to resolve a dead throttle ...

- Test it on another computer
- Plug it directly into a port on the computer (not an external hub, not a port on the 'front' of the computer)
- Hold down the 2 pushbuttons, "Autopilot Engage/Disengage and L/G Wrn Silence" as you plug in the throttle and keep held for +5 seconds
- Request firmware & calibration tools from ThrustMaster, providing as much information as possible about how/when it stopped working

As for my situation, I've connected my throttle numerous times, had it connected through many reboots. It is connected to an external, powered hub. I've only had it die once, and with the tools from TM brought it back online in a jiffy. If those tools aren't working, it may be more serious than a loss of firmware.

We're hardly beta testing ... there are hundreds of Warthogs out there now, and only a few of us are experiencing any difficulty. Frustrating, sure - but let's keep things in perspective.


Well mine is here, no problems so far and theres are at least 11918 of them out there cuz that my warthogs serial number and BTW SCSimulations is the place to get them if you dont mind paying retail,One week from order to delivery.

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Very bad news here guys. My Thrustmaster Warthog throttle has died tonight just after I got my new Simpit up and running. There seems to be a problem involving bootloader and Windows reports no driver for this and a yellow flag. No throttle lights at all.

Very very disappointed with this - if anyone has any suggestioins I'm listening as there's no tech support until Sunday morning in the UK.

I gather that there might be a new firmware which has revived some people's throttles - if anyone has any software they can send and instructions they followed I'd be very greatful.

Truth told I have hardly used it. I was building my Akers Barnes simpit since it arrived. My MFD's arrived today and I'd only just got everything plugged in. The last thing I did was plug in my Cougar in order to try and use my Elite rudders.

I'm considering a Windows reversion to a previous date but it will undo all my work today.

I'm afraid I think Thrustmaster have a significant problem here...

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Originally Posted By: Skip
Well mine is here, no problems so far and theres are at least 11918 of them out there cuz that my warthogs serial number and BTW SCSimulations is the place to get them if you dont mind paying retail,One week from order to delivery.
I seriously doubt that 50% of those have been sold and/or activated yet.

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I just got mine yesterday but after reading about all these dieing Warthog throttles here and on Ed. I'm going to stop using it until this mess is figured out. It's disappointing.

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Greetings, fellow Milwaukeean.

There's 100+ posts in the serial database over on ED, and about 5-6 people who've had problems that I count (Mostly by going through the 'My Warthog Died' thread, but I've looked through a few others and I mostly see the same names...and at least one of them actually had his problem fixed)

Keep using it and have fun with it. I've been flying the things for 6 months plugging 'em in and out of my computer with no problems. Sucks for those who have had problems, but chances are you won't. If you do, it's gonna have to be returned and/or sent in somewhere anyway.

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I've only tinkered with mine for a few days, but so far so good. We'll see what happens I guess...


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Originally Posted By: Teej
Greetings, fellow Milwaukeean.

There's 100+ posts in the serial database over on ED, and about 5-6 people who've had problems that I count (Mostly by going through the 'My Warthog Died' thread, but I've looked through a few others and I mostly see the same names...and at least one of them actually had his problem fixed)

Keep using it and have fun with it. I've been flying the things for 6 months plugging 'em in and out of my computer with no problems. Sucks for those who have had problems, but chances are you won't. If you do, it's gonna have to be returned and/or sent in somewhere anyway.

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You make a good point. Was getting the impression the problem was firmware. But if it's going to happen might as well find out sooner then later. Get back up and ride again!

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OK, probably a totally noob and ignorant question here, but are there any sort of diagrams showing the controller setups for the different configs? Like for the FC2 F-15, Falcon, etc., so you can know what axis to assign where?


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Question for you who have the TM Warthog... Where do you put the stick? Do you:

a) Place it on the desktop to the right of keyboard?

or

b) Place it between your legs as in the real A-10 cockpit?

I'm curious what you find the best positioning is with this stick. Mine is on order and I'm wondering if it will work on the desk or if I'll need to build some sort of side or center support/mount.

Thanks in advance for the replies.


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I've done most of my flying with it mounted on the side, but much lower than a desktop. I have them on separate stands so my forearm is parallel to the ground. Much more ergonomic than reaching up to desk height.

I'm more than a little tempted to build a center mount though.


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Originally Posted By: Lobo_63
Question for you who have the TM Warthog... Where do you put the stick? Do you:

a) Place it on the desktop to the right of keyboard?

or

b) Place it between your legs as in the real A-10 cockpit?

I'm curious what you find the best positioning is with this stick. Mine is on order and I'm wondering if it will work on the desk or if I'll need to build some sort of side or center support/mount.

Thanks in advance for the replies.

Mine's on my desk, but the throttle is a bit too far away there, so I'm thinking about what to put together in the limited space I have to put it in a better position, like Teej's setup.


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Any of you guys warthog die yet? Some people have been talking about theirs dying here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=61569


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saxon, I suspect you've had the same problem as most people and it seems like somehow the firmware gets corrupted on certain throttles throwing up an unknown device called hotas bootloader. Talk to thrustmaster support tomorrow and I expect they'll mail you an updated firmware that'll fix the problem.

As has been said this seems to be a problem thats affecting a minority of throttles at no specific time, mine died five minutes after installing, some peoples last a few days or weeks. In most cases this seems to be a simple fix and my throttle has been fine since. Not yet heard of anyone who had the problem re-occur.

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Quote:
Question for you who have the TM Warthog... Where do you put the stick? Do you:

I put it on the keyboard tray of my desk. Otherwise it would've sit too high. The throttle sits on a stool/side-table next to my chair

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Any of you guys warthog die yet?

So far, no.

The stick is now plugged into the mainboard USB port for about 10 days. I only plug the throttle in (again port on the mainboard), when i need it and only plug it in and out when the system is running.

However, i did get a slight shock, when the throttle indeed stopped working. But that was due to a lose contact in the USB port of the Y-cable of my TrackclipPro.

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My throttle still dead, doesn't reply for hardware reset or anything else. It seems like a hardware problem instead of a software (firmware) problem. deadhorse
Still waiting for the support; getting more and more impatient.

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