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#2465705 - 03/09/08 06:35 PM Re: How to dogfight in Mirage 3C ? [Re: tflash]
Toonsis Offline
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Registered: 10/18/03
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I will goof with it. I do want an artificial horizon and the info. I tend to get strange AOA with WOI because of any sims lack of feedback


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#2466191 - 03/10/08 05:48 AM Re: How to dogfight in Mirage 3C ? [Re: Toonsis]
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 Originally Posted By: Toonsis
I had a feeling somebody was going to tell me I could edit the radar out, thanks I will try.

LOL! Yeah, there ain't much you can't mod with this sim. \:\)

Something I was reading the other day, the Mirage's gunsight gave the IAF pilots fits. It wouldn't compute range properly. Finally, they jury-rigged three standard settings for the gunsight: short, medium, and long. Pilots would estimate their range and switch to one of the settings.

Given how tough hitting anything with the cannon is in WOI, I wonder if TK simulated the goofy gunsight, too ... ?


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#2466696 - 03/10/08 08:19 PM Re: How to dogfight in Mirage 3C ? [Re: Banger]
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I am re-reading my Osprey book on it now, there is some info the sim world can use in these

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#2466779 - 03/10/08 09:57 PM Re: How to dogfight in Mirage 3C ? [Re: Toonsis]
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 Originally Posted By: Toonsis
I am re-reading my Osprey book on it now, there is some info the sim world can use in these

Heh ... yeah, I ordred all the Osprey books about the IAF and Arab air forces after I got WOI. That's one of the things I really love about flight simming, reading up on the topic as I'm learning the game. Fun way to study history.

Man, I have way too many Osprey books. I know they're not always completely accurate, but they sure do provide a great, quick overview -- and the aircraft profiles are nice! \:\)

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#2467956 - 03/12/08 11:55 AM Re: How to dogfight in Mirage 3C ? [Re: Banger]
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Another problem the IAF had is that the shell fuse was tuned for bombers, therefore, it exploded too late for fighter size aircraft (the shell hit, crossed the aircraft and exploded later).

The interest with the Mirage is its nose authority : you can "break" your speed quickly and make fantastic turns, then you ease up and regain quickly the lost speed : this is how you fight against the Mig21 or you can get rid of an opponent in your six. This is a good tactic when you have reliable missiles because during a head on pass, you can have the first shot (but if you miss, you are in great troubles).

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#2468345 - 03/12/08 08:00 PM Re: How to dogfight in Mirage 3C ? [Re: jeanba]
Toonsis Offline
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I am glad the sims dont fuse bombs or bullets, 1 less thing to worry about

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#2471314 - 03/16/08 10:14 PM Re: How to dogfight in Mirage 3C ? [Re: Toonsis]
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From Full Metal Jacket :

"Its easy - ya just dont lead as much." ; )
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Bartender - I'll have another Bass Ale please.

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#2471319 - 03/16/08 10:19 PM Re: How to dogfight in Mirage 3C ? [Re: MistyFAC]
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That movie had some great 1 liners....but typical goofy hollywoodism as well

So, in the Mirage I want to stay fast and use energy fighter tactics, Just like I fight with the F4 Sledgehammer.

Is the bouncy nose porpoising of the Mirage correctly simulated ?
Did it really fly this way ?


Edited by Toonsis (03/17/08 01:43 PM)

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