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#2156030 - 03/09/07 11:52 PM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Ian Boys]
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Registered: 03/25/03
Loc: Colorado Springs, Colorado
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After all these years the most I can get is 26 missions? I'd never have made it in RL! We fly completely differently in a sim than we would in real life ... at least I know I do. That is one of the things that makes combat flight sims fun.
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#2156066 - 03/10/07 01:05 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Ian Boys]
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Registered: 11/16/00
Loc: Tracy, Ca USA
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Heck, if I flew all my campaigns DID, I'd seldom get to 10!  26 is quite good, methinks. No Instant Success is my friend.  Today, I started a Kurland 109G6 campaign.....first mission, tried to stay with my wingman, got 2 bandits on my tail, called for help -- then got position on them, dived right into the lead plane, he climbed at me -- and shot my pilot right between the eyes. I think I'll be flying that one again..... 
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#2156085 - 03/10/07 01:28 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Ian Boys]
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Registered: 03/06/01
Loc: FL, Lousiana and points South
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I don't think I've ever made it that far, without "Instant Success".
Somebody (Siggi???) had a website where people were listing their campaign achievements, lol, over a hundred missions without dying.
Not me. Heck I screw up landings once in awhile, especially if damaged.
I think 25 missions is quite good.
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#2156130 - 03/10/07 02:43 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Ian Boys]
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Registered: 11/22/01
Loc: People's Republic of Sweden
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After all these years the most I can get is 26 missions? I'd never have made it in RL! I think the main difference is that they didn't run into flak and fighters on every mission IRL. Bomber crews did, and many of them didn't survive a 30-mission tour... (Something like 50% of RAF Bomber Command aircrew were KIA.)
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#2156142 - 03/10/07 03:09 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: I B Spectre]
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Registered: 03/06/01
Loc: FL, Lousiana and points South
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Let us not under-estimate Galland's attribution of "luck" in surviving combat. Knowing you will not be penalized the "ultimate price" emboldens the virtual pilot. Don't be so hard on yourself. Was just flying, while you writng that, a He-162c over Kurland, fun little camapign called Baltic Sparrows. Been dying alot, I got sick of restarting, so I just take the deaths now, just to finish it. I've died like 11 times since my fifth restart! That 162 doesn't like getting slow on final approach. Finally got a "piece of cake" mission. Night intercept of unescorted Douglas transports. So I pushed my luck. Attacked them from the rear at 500kph to 600kph. One burst, Close In, and they just flew apart , and me right thru the debris. Wings and engines flying everywhere.  Me? I got seven I think, and not a scratch. Ran out of ammo, there was one left.
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#2156298 - 03/10/07 10:47 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Stanford Tuck]
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Babelfish Immune
Senior Member
Registered: 09/22/04
Loc: London
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Somebody (Siggi???) had a website where people were listing their campaign achievementsYes that cool Dead Is Dead idea, very interesting and no better way of bumping up the immersion. Let's hope he'll do that for BoB because I'll be the first one in. Homecoming it'll be of sorts for some <sigh> Roll on I say  Ming
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#2156307 - 03/10/07 11:15 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Guderian]
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Registered: 06/17/05
Loc: UK
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I think the main difference is that they didn't run into flak and fighters on every mission IRL. Bomber crews did, and many of them didn't survive a 30-mission tour...
(Something like 50% of RAF Bomber Command aircrew were KIA.) The real statistics for RAF bomber crews were simply awful. You were more likely to have survived being a junior officer on the Somme back in the First World War, than surviving bomber ops in WWII.. A sobering thought.
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#2156321 - 03/10/07 12:12 PM
Re: Gutted
[Re: TROOPER117]
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Registered: 05/10/01
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I'm doing a DCG Marianas '44 written by Jasta 5. Flying Hellcats off a carrier so a landing is a nerve wracking as strike mission (for me, my runways IRL were always long and stationary). I'm on mission 31. I have been shot down, but so far it's been engine hits that allowed me to glide back over friendly lines. Bit easier now that the Marines landed and captured a good chunk of one of the islands.
the amazing thing to me is my AI wingman, good ole Selva Wilkins has survived as well. He had to bail once but ended up drifting over and landing at our beachhead. He has actually progressed from Rookie AI to Ace level and does a bang up job keeping my six clear. I hope I haven't jinxed myself now...
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#2156733 - 03/11/07 02:21 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: WWSensei]
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Registered: 05/16/02
Loc: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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I'm doing a DCG Marianas '44 written by Jasta 5. Flying Hellcats off a carrier so a landing is a nerve wracking as strike mission ... I got to mission 12 in that campaign, then got whacked by AAA over the island. No warning, no indication of flak even going up. Think I took the first round right in the tush. I had just started an ntrk of the sortie too... looking back at it I saw no other flak bursts before my plane exploded. Lot's of flak afterwards though. Interesting landings?? How about attempting a carrier landing while in this condition? :  (click for larger version) No vertical tail at all thanks to a collision with a Ki-84 (he went down minus a wing). Made it back to the carrier and actually managed to land safely. A bit roughly, but safely, and without bending any more parts. My chair had an odd cone shape in the center of it after that attempt however...
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#2157018 - 03/11/07 03:49 PM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Ming_EAF19]
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Lifer
Registered: 12/30/00
Loc: Columbus, GA USA
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Somebody (Siggi???) had a website where people were listing their campaign achievementsYes that cool Dead Is Dead idea, very interesting and no better way of bumping up the immersion. Let's hope he'll do that for BoB because I'll be the first one in. Homecoming it'll be of sorts for some <sigh> Roll on I say Ming If by homecoming you mean the fact that the next one is for the Brits, I kind of identify. The upcoming SH4 is for us colonials. Although I in no way enjoyed SH3 any less for me being a German U-boot captain. But if that's not what you meant, then I didn't post this.
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#2287676 - 08/18/07 09:32 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: WWSandMan]
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Lifer
Registered: 12/18/02
Loc: Brisbane OZ
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I'm doing a DCG Marianas '44 written by Jasta 5. Flying Hellcats off a carrier so a landing is a nerve wracking as strike mission ... I got to mission 12 in that campaign, then got whacked by AAA over the island. No warning, no indication of flak even going up. Think I took the first round right in the tush. I had just started an ntrk of the sortie too... looking back at it I saw no other flak bursts before my plane exploded. Lot's of flak afterwards though. Interesting landings?? How about attempting a carrier landing while in this condition? : (click for larger version) No vertical tail at all thanks to a collision with a Ki-84 (he went down minus a wing). Made it back to the carrier and actually managed to land safely. A bit roughly, but safely, and without bending any more parts. My chair had an odd cone shape in the center of it after that attempt however... ..landing a machine in that condition is worthy of a turtlehead 
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#2287721 - 08/18/07 01:04 PM
Re: Gutted
[Re: letterboy1]
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Babelfish Immune
Senior Member
Registered: 09/22/04
Loc: London
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If by homecoming you mean the fact that the next one is for the Brits, I kind of identify... But if that's not what you meant, then I didn't post this. lol Everything's deniable A homecoming for EAW refugees rather than a British thing I meant there LB. The ejected and bedraggled EAW early adopters looking for a way out of the Ostfront it's a nightmare over there. But ok flying over Essex estuaries and marshes is a bonus yes you coaxed it out of me Ming
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#2289089 - 08/19/07 09:46 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Ming_EAF19]
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Senior Member
Registered: 03/06/01
Loc: FL, Lousiana and points South
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Cmon Ming, you've had that Lilliputian version of, hmmmmm, the Isle of, well you know that little island off Normandy. Anyway us Western front guys have had that island for awhile now, and I still can't find London on it!  Coodinates please. Berlin...that's easy, just watch your framerates, kind of a FPS Nav system. Anyway, I still fly, when I do, campaigns with the If you die you die thing. Hardly get past takeoff much anymore.
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#2289113 - 08/19/07 11:26 AM
Re: Gutted
[Re: Nixer]
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Registered: 02/07/02
Loc: Suburbia,France
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I nearly never die in my campaigns, but I do wreck my plane every bloody time. All campaigns put together, plus single missions, my 109 landing succes rate doesn't exceed 10%, whatever variant... and thats when I manage to bring the darn Messer back home. I guess that would have pretty much got me kicked from the Luftwaffe for 'attempting to sabotage the war effort' or something like that. Never got passed the first mission in any of my carrier campaigns, so DID would kill the fun I guess, unless parachuting on the deck is an accepted form of landing Cheers Nico
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#2289295 - 08/19/07 06:13 PM
Re: Gutted
[Re: VonBarb.]
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Registered: 06/25/04
Loc: Iola, TX
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Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. I come back in a hurry quite often, and usually don't have any gear (or they're severely weakened). I belly in next to the airfield a lot. DiD... Depends on the mood. I once made it through a Slovak campaign without dying, although I did get hospitalized three times. I've died in my Polish campaign, but most times were by over zealous wingmen going in for the kill. I'll usually refly those. However, if I honestly died (out flown, didn't see him, made a mistake), I'll end the campaign. Sometimes I find myself wanting to see fighters on a long patrol. Sometimes I run into enough of them, I wish I could take it back. 
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