Hey guys...

About the new 104s(J and ROCAF G) skins...its complete in painting but i am having trouble getting the white wings to show prominently contrasting to the silver fuselage. That's causing all the delay.

Do you think i should issue a large decal for the entire wing upper surface instead or is there a way to individually change the reflection, glosiness values for each mesh?

Nosecone:

Try the decal, am having the same issue, since I had not heard from you in a few days, I did these skins yesterday, but while testing I had my first ever lock up in Single Player (usually only in MP ), and had not saved the last few renderings in PaintShop. Only have the finished .bmps. Here are the results.

this one has been scrapped...



This one is from the Squadron 'In Action' p.36







Another variant on the color scheme.



The wings above are painted white, but I think I might need to add another layer, to bring out the white in the wing, the rivets an panel lines are too dark. When I do this I will post another shot.
I still haven't figured out the 'white wing thing' either. The tail and aircradt numbers ar new decals, the Insignia are stock. I have the latest two-toned grey scheme planned, and of course when we get an 'A' model the Natural metal skins also.

Crab_02

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will post again shortly

see this link b4 ?
http://members19.cool.ne.jp/~skywarrior/rocaf%2011ag.htm

Nice link, got anything a bit older though, to fit the time frame of the game?

An my '4522' is on that site, so I can refine it, think it was from 1992.

I like the skins with the rudder stripes better anyway.

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Hi

sorry to ask, but I'm really novice at this

what do you exactly mean by new decals for the wings??

I'm also repainting a starfighter with white wings, and of course I got the same problem that you have, it glitters like the metal finish of the fuselage

to correct a bit, i sparayed a yellower colour (255-255-41) but tough it's better, it's far from perfect..





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Crab_02..our 104 looks remarkably similar except mine doesn't have any serial or squad decals YET.

As for the ROCAF birds...apart from my zero knowledge of its serial number system and the white wing effect another snag is the red and white nose probe which can't be easily painted. I think its that circle with the cross you find in the F-104_2 bitmap.

Sony & Crab

Unless we can find a way to independently adjust the reflectiveness of the individual upper wing meshs(come on ask Dan or Jamie) the only real way we could solve this problem is by using a huge white decal complete with panel lines.
This is not impossible but is very tricky. Care to try ?

As you can see ROCAF F-104G is borrowing the wing from my 104J.

Here are some screenshots.






btw do you know what 104Js carry other than the Sidewinder 9B/J, AAM-1 and wing tanks ?
Never seen any strike ordnance of the sort.

ROCAF starfighters i have seen with M117, Zunis, Mk82.etc

Belgian Starfighters are something new for me too. Hope to see more of them.


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OKi

being belgian and in the Air Force, I know a lot about belgian 104

I'd like to give a try to your decal solution.

Could you explain me, i know nothing about this way to proceed

sorry to ask, but I would appreciate understanding to finish this project before going on with the camouflages version (viet nam style, 2 green, 1 brown, grey underside)

here is another shot of my work



[This message has been edited by Sony Tuckson (edited 12-26-2002).]

Crab, lighten the rivets by adjusting the brightness and contrast of the layer. If you do it, remember the values you used from the begining, changes are cumulative, and not recorded on an absolute scale.

Nosecone, I just noticed your mssg at Biohaz saying you emailed me. Can't find the email tho.

Klaatu

its OK...i figured out the solution to the painting/melting while experimenting.
thx for telling me about the message

Sony

I am not sure of your question...are you asking how to make decals or manipulate the decal system ?

Hang on..i will find the the link to the excellent decal making tutorial.

Also suggest you download TK's decal placement tutorial.

Here is the decal making tutorial thread.
Hope you find it useful Sony


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