First of all, these are not stalinist propaganda - datum I provided are of German origin.
There was a quest PC game about dinosaurus, where one of the heroes said: "Think, and you will find". Quite applicable.
I simply didn't respond to numbers in this thread, as they made me LOL (about number of German planes downed on East Front). So here's the math:
106000 - 15000(East) - even say quite exagerrated 40000 (on all fronts except Russian) =
FIFTY ONE THOUSAND airplanes at German's disposal by the end of the war. Anyone saw that? ;-)
To remove pinky glasses, just look how many German fighters was shot down on June 22th 1941 - the day of complete surprize for VVS. And then realize that for whole entire BoB campain Germans lost more only once.
Please do not think that average German losses on Eastern front became substantially (30 times) less per day than on June 22th.
Now numbers someone requested in this thread:
Total AC production rate:
USSR US UK Germany Japan Italy
1939 10382 2141 7940 8295 4467 1692
1940 10565 6086 15049 10247 4768 3257
1941 15735 19433 20094 12414 5088 3503
1942 25436 47836 23672 15401 8861 2818
1943 34900 85898 26263 24807 16693 1930
1944 40241 96318 26461 40593 28180 -----
1945 20104 46001 12070 7539 11066
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Total 157363 303713 131549 119296 79123 13200
Now Germany AC production data.
Make Model Military Military Primary use
production production
years under German
control
Arado
Ar 65 1935-? ? fighter
Ar 66 1933-43 10,000 primary trainer
Ar 68 1935-37 (480) fighter
Ar 76 1936 ? advanced trainer
Ar 95 1937-39 24 recce
* Ar 96 & Ar 396 1939-44 11,456 advanced trainer
* Ar 196 1939-44 401 recce
* Ar 234 1944-45 210 recce bomber
* Ar 232 1942-? 22 transport
* Ar 240 & Ar 440 1942-43 13 fighter
Bachem
* Ba 349 1945 36 interceptor
Blohm & Voss
* BV 138 1940-43 273 recce
* BV 141 1939-? 13 tactical recce
* BV 222 1940-? 13 transport
Buecker Bue 131 1934- several thousand primary trainer
Bue 133 1936- several hundred aerobatic trainer
* Bue 181 1940-45 6,608 trainer
DFS
* 230 1939-41 1,022 assault glider
Dornier
Do 11 1933-34 77 heavy bomber
Do 18 1938-39 ca.100 recce
Do 17 1936-39 ca.1000 medium bomber
* Do 17Z 1939-40 535 "
* Do 215 1940-41 101 "
Do 15 1933-35 30 recce
Do 22 1938-39 26 "
Do 23 1935-36 210 heavy bomber
* Do 24 1937-44 228 recce
* Do 217 1939-43 (1,700) bomber
* Do 335 1944-45 90 fighter
Fieseler
* Fi 167 1939 12 torpedo
* Fi 103 1944-45 175 manned missile
* Fi 156 1937-45 2,549 in WWII STOL multi-role
ca.2,700 total
Flettner * Fl 282 1942-? 20+ observation helicopter
Focke Achgelis
* Fa 223 1942-? ca.12 transport helicopter
Focke-Wulf FW 56 1936-40 ca.1,000 advanced trainer
* FW 58 1937-42 ca.4,500 transport
* FW 189 1940-44 856 tactical recce
* FW 190 1940-45 20,051 fighter / fighter bomber
* Ta 152 1944-45 67 fighter
* FW 200 1940-44 276 recce bomber
Gotha
Go 145 1935-43 9,965 primary trainer
* Go 242 & Go 244 1941-43 1,528 glider / transport
Heinkel
He 45 ?-1936 512 recce bomber
He 46 ?-1936 481 recce
He 50 pre-WWII 60 recce
He 51 1934-? 200+ fighter
He 59 1932-36 200+ multi-role
He 60 1934-? 200+ recce
He 70 1934-38 ca.280 recce bomber
He 72 1933-36 several thousand primary trainer
* He 100 1939 15 fighter
* He 111 1936-44 6,806+ medium bomber
He 112 1937-39 54 fighter
He 114 1936-? ? recce
* He 115 1937-44 400+ multi-role
* He 177 1941-44 1,126 heavy bomber
* He 219 1943-45 268 + 20 night fighter
* He 162 1945 300 interceptor
Henschel
Hs 123 1936-38 1,000+ close support
Hs 126 1937-41 802 army co-operation
* Hs 129 1941-? 841 (Hs 129B) ground attack
Junkers
* Ju 52/3m 1932-45 5,000+ transport (including civilian)
* Ju 86 1938-40 810-1,000 bomber
* Ju 87 1936-44 5,700+ dive bomber/ground attack
* Ju 88 A & S 1939-44 10,774 bomber C,R & G 1940-45 4,200+
day / night fighter W 34 ?-1934 1,800 transport (including
civilian)
* Ju 188 1942-45 1,100 bomber
* Ju 288 1942-43 22 medium bomber
* Ju 290 1942-44 ca.50 transport / recce bomber
* Ju352 1943-44 45 transport
Messerschmitt
* BF 108 1934-44 885 liaison
* BF 109 1937-45 (33,000 WWII) fighter / fighter bomber 37,000 1937-56
* BF 110 1939-45 6,050 day / night fighter
* Me 163 1944-45 370 interceptor
* Me 210 & Me 410 1941-44 1,474 tactical multi-role
* Me 262 1944-45 1,433 fighter / fighter bomber
* Me 321 & Me 323 1941-44 385 heavy glider / transport
Siebel
* Si 204 1941-45 1,175+ multi-role
Regards,
-MailPin
Originally posted by Pen:
Excellent post!
So it looks like the VVS actually downed in the area of 14 to 15 thousand the entire war, not 44 thousand. While over Northern Europe the Americans and Brits downed about 8000 just during the first 5 months before D-Day, mostly with that crappy, over-rated
P-thingamajiggy
Sorry, just couldn't resist