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I have just bought RB 3D and was wondering if anybody knew how to get a Geforce2 running a 3dfx game.

I read sometime ago about a unified driver or something that would allow Nvidia owners to play 3dfx only games.

Anybody ever done this succesfully?

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Dustbag,
I advice is don't even think about it!
I tried a couple and they didn't work, I read all the posts I could find and they don't work.
I have a GeForce2 and my advice is get a Voodoo2 on the cheap, or two,from e-Bay.
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Hi,

If I do install a Vodoo2 alongside my Geforce 2 am I likely to get any problems with my other games which uses D3D?

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I haven't had my V2 running for very long. In that time I have played Battle of Brit, Mig Alley and RB3D. I have not had any problems I attribute to the Voodoo. You may want to check with somebody who has been using them for longer.
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I had a Voodoo 1 running with a TNT2 card for what seems like years. Never a problem till the voodoo1 went bad.

I put in a GeForce 2 Ultra and got a Voodoo 2 a few months ago and they have lived happily ever after. The voodoo2 install was the easiest hardware upgrade I've ever done. It was so painless, I couldn't believe that it was really installed. No massaging or begging or praying needed.

You can set the Voodoo2 to run only in glide with just a mouse click. That way you should never have a conflict.

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Hi,

I have managed to buy back my Voodoo2 card that I sold to a work mate and tried to install it last night.

The installation seemed to go OK but when I run RB3D the Glide option is still greyed out.

Can anybody give me some tips on how to ensure my Geforce2MX and Voodoo2 live happily together?

If you do have 2 graphics cards installed which one will be listed under the Display option in the control panel?

My system specs:

Abit KT7 Raid (3C Bios)
Athlon 900Mhz
Geforce2MX (v14.10 drivers)
Creative Labs 3D Blaster (v3.02 ref drivers)
SB Live Value
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Perhaps you now need to reinstall RB3D. Save all you campaign info first.

My Geforce2Pro is the card listed under display adapters and the voodoo is listed under game controllers etc. as a 3d accelerator.
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Hi Poyungan,

I have the Geforce2 listed under Display adapters and the Voodoo2 under Sound etc..

I was more meaning the Display folder in the control panel, the one where you set the display properties. (e.g background, screensaver, settings etc...)

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When you right click on the desktop and select properties you will get your video card setting tabs.

If you have two cards, you should have tabs for controlling both cards. I have no idea why your Voodoo 2 should be listed under sound.

Access your video tabs as described above and click on the tab for the voodoo 2. Make sure it is set for "glide", not "both" or "D3D".

This may be a dumb question, but did you get a "pass-through cable" with you card? The reason I ask is that I didn't get one with my Voodoo 2, But I'd had a Voodoo 1 before, so I already had one. It won't work with out one.

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Yes, I get two different tabs in the display settings, one for nVidia and one for Voodoo.
If you don't have this then I suspect the driver is not installed properly.

Spin Doctor, the Voodoo is listed in Device Manager under Sound,Video and Game Controllers, it dosen't mean that it is conflicting with the sound card.

If you do have it listed there it should be OK. I don't know why you don't have the second tab in Display Properties. Perhaps the driver is installed correctly but not the software for changing settings. Perhaps you should look at downloading the driver from http://www.voodoofiles.com and see how you go.
When I bought my Voodoo second hand, I didn't receive any drivers. The one from the Voodoo files works fine.
Sounds like you are very close to solving the problem.

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Here is the Voodoo2 Windows 9x/ME driver location in the Voodoo files:-
http://www.voodoofiles.com/1843
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Hi,

I have now managed to get the Voodoo installed without any crashes and RB3D now works in Glide mode.

I still only have the Geforce2 options in my Display tab though, all the messing I have done over the last days has left my system in a bit of a mess so I am planning to try a fresh install tonight.

If I want to play something in D3D or OpenGL (e.g. Battle of Britain) using the GF2 do I need to plug my monitor cable back into the Geforce2?

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If you don't have a pass through cable, then the answer is yes.

When you got your card, you should have gotten a cable that attaches between the two cards, then your monitor connects to the Voodoo card.

When you run a glide game, then the Voodoo is active. But when you run a D3D game the GeForce card will be active but the signal will just "pass through" the Voodoo card.

Otherwise, you will have to switch your monitor cable around all the time.

If you have the cable installed, then just play on, brother.



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I have no problems playing BoB or Red Baron and don't have to cahnge any settings to do so.
That URL I gave you for the driver says the driver has a display applet for adjusting settings. I suspect your software has not enabled this.
BTW, old hands have told me to use the applet to limit memory to 2MB in the glide settings as this averts some CTDs.
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I don't think he was asking about settings. He was asking about plugging the monitor into the different cards.

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Quote:
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I don't think he was asking about settings. He was asking about plugging the monitor into the different cards.

S! Spin Doctor,
I realise that but I was wondering why he dosen't have the tab in the display settings.
Even if it is not "Passed through", wouldn't the driver install still put a tab there?
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Hi all,

Yes I have a pass-through cable connecting the GF2 to the V2 so if your comments are correct then I do not have to switch my monitor cable between the 2 cards to ensure that my GF2 is used for non Glide games.

I still do not have a tab for the V2 in my display properties though, the drivers I am using are some hacked drivers called "Fast Voodoo 2".

p.s. How do you think this game compares to Flying Corps with regard to realism, campaign etc...

9am now and got to start work,

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If I were you, I would just use the drivers that Poyungan gave the link for, instead of the "fast" voodoo you are using. Hacked drivers are rarely worth the trouble they cause just to get a few extra FPS.

My FPS varies from 40 to 70 and I find that quite adequate for an old celeron 600.

As far as how Red Baron compares to Flying Corp, I don't know, but let's put it this way - Does anyone talk about Flying Corps anymore? Plus it was made by Rowan and they have yet, even at this late date, to make a sim that wasn't crawling with bugs.

Sorry Poyungan, I misunderstood what you were saying about the settings.

Salute!

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Hi Spin Doctor,

I have just finished re-installing Windows and all associated drivers and I now have my Geforce2 and the Voodoo2 listed under the Display icon in the control panel.

My final question relates to something you said earlier in this thread:

"You can set the Voodoo2 to run only in glide with just a mouse click. That way you should never have a conflict."

How do I do this?

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You may have figured this out youself by now, but you just access your settings tabs, select the one for voodoo 2 and click on the drop-down box located there. It has a setting for glide, D3D, or both.

Why did you have to reinstall your windows? From using those hacked drivers?

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I didnt have to reinstall windows but I find that after running the system for a few months a fresh install sometimes helps to quicken things up again.
I traced the problem to be the driver version I was using, I read on some 3dfx website that my version was incompatible with Windows ME.

I have seen the tab you refer to but I was under the impression that this allowed you to change things like Gamma levels and refresh rates that applied to D3D, Glide or Both.

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Truth be told, I'm going off of memory for all this stuff, but I'd say if the card is working, then there shouldn't be a conflict.

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I am currently using a Voodoo2 Geeforce combo, and I love it to death. The added advantages are well worth the sacrifice of an extra PCI slot.
Just puttin' in my two cents!
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Dustbag,
I use a "voodoo tweaker" program to select the v2 in glide only mode. u will probably find that the voodoo card will override the tnt in d3d mode if u dont use something like this.
unfortunately i cannot remember the url for this program (it is freeware) but if u mail me at ste_day@hotmail.com i will mail it to u as it is only a small program.

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Hi Steve,

I have installed the Voodoo tweaker and was just wondering how I disable D3D?

Do I need to untick the box entitled "Enable DirectDraw Drivers"

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Yup, that's exactly how you do it... then your D3D games shouldn't even see it as an option.

I've got my Voodoo2 living happily with a GeForce256, and it's been running well on 3 diff't moboards over the last year. Works great once you get the drivers and such all hammered out.

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