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Once again it appears , that the UK buying public are the beta testers for a bug ridden sim !

Rage softwares - Hostile Waters - Anteus Rising , sitting on my hard drive , running fine , with DX8 , voodoo 3 card , 500 cpu , 128 ram , soundblaster card etc

Rage softwares - Typhoon - sitting on same hard drive , unplayable due to system lockups and crashes to desktops with error messages . You can fly for no more than a few minutes in game before termimally lockups .

So people,if you like rebooting you pc , and ruining your hard drives in the process - go buy this game !

The game ships with DX7 - despite testing and development cycle the game is heavily bugged out of the box !

Incredibly the game appears to be non 3DFX compatible !

YOU HAVE BEEN DUELY WARNED !

So, what you're saying then is that because this game doesn't work on your PC it won't work on anyone elses? Wrong!

Typhoon works fine for me. Of course there are a few minor glitches but I've had no crashes at all. So, mister sweeping statements what do you make of that?

People really annoy me who categorically state that a game will not function on all PCs just because it doesn't work on their PC. Perhaps you might want to change that 3Dfx card - old technology I'm afraid.

Saxon

Incredibly the game appears to be non 3DFX compatible !

Define your specs dude ???
gfx card ?

if it works for you cool ! im glad

Read the forum - 3dfx owners can't play it !

Even Andy Bush's 3dfx card now locks up after 30 mins of play , he is lucky try 2 mins or 5 mins max !

Im merely warning 3DFX owners the product is broke - capish !

Rage built it , and thats me being polite , im one of the suckers that purchased it , other 3dfx purhasers beware !

Stephenwhite, I think you are missing the point that 3dfxboy is trying to make. He is warning potential owners that if they own a 3dfx V3 card then, on their computer, there is a very, very good chance that the game will not work. It doesn't work for me and many others who have posted on this forum, some of whom have had to re-install windows. Had I been fore-warned I could have avoided hours of frustration myself.

I think what 3dfx bloke says is justified. I haven't found anybody yet who has been able to run the full game on any 3dfx card other than a Voodoo 5. It's unbelievable that something like this could make it through QA...Voodoos are probably in 50% of the people who buy this game's computers. And if 50% of them return the game...that's seriously bad news for Rage.

As for buying a new card: that may be easy if you're rich. I am not prepared to upgrade my Graphics card, since everything else I own and want to run runs fantastically.

lol, 3dfx cards.

enuf said

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Hengist.

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http://www.hengist.co.uk/MiGAlley

Hee hee hee..
indeed.

moaning and groaning that a game recently released does not work with a graphics card that has no vendor support or recent drivers released for it.

This is a "Duuuuh" moment

incredibly the game appears to be non 3dfx compatible

Get used to it dude. This is going to happen more and more, and there's nothing 'incedible' or 'unbelievable' about it.

Oh..and please explain how rebooting will ruin your hard drive?

My apologies - I did misread the inital comments. However, 3Dfx is old technology and upgrading is the best bet. I have a 3Dfx and TNT2 and never use the 3Dfx. Graphics cards aren't that expensive these days - I certainly wouldn't say you have to be rich to get one.

Saxon

Thankyou - i agree entirelty with you

i have a voodoo5 in the post to me at the moment too , im upgrading !

I must admit i get annoyed at tho pissing contest of/ over video cards , eg 3dfx lovers / haters etc .

But i would hope that all the simmers would rally around to help each other not , make silly , snide and unhelpful comments re each others hardware !

3dfx cards are the most widely held , and the best for compatibility on all game types historically !

If people are playing typhoon stabley on dx8 with other vid cards , great , you must be having fun , but please support your 3dfx simming kin folk , as we can't fly and enjoy this sim with you !

This fault is unacceptable and lies firmly at the door of Rage , they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves !

please note i purchased both hostile waters and typhoon together on the same day at EB , I gave RAGE alot of my hard earned money , the products are installed side by side on my d:\ hard drive , one works , the other does not - explain that ???????

This is down to incompetance and bad / what testing of the product ?????????????????????

I think some folks are missing the point. Typhoon was clearly advertised to work with Voodoo cards. If it does not, then Rage is commiting fraud and has violated the law and the trust of its consumers. This must be fixed immediately, if not sooner!!!

On the other hand the demo readme clearly mentions problems with 3Dfx cards..

"3DFX
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Voodoo 2 - 3DFX has ceased support for DirectX7 Transform and Lighting applications for this card
Voodoo 3 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant
Voodoo 5 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant"

Are these cards mentioned as compatible on the box?

I didn't intend to respond to your post. But I'm trying to find out of Rage advertised that the game would work with Voodoo cards on the box.

Fishbed you mention that you have a Voodoo card and the demo works for you. Wonder why the full game won't work. Did others with Voodoo problems get the demo to work OK but not that full game?

Anyhow I really hope that this is fixable. The 3Dfx cards are old technology and there will probably be other games in the future that will not work with it (maybe). But that doesn't mean everyone shouldn't enjoy Typhhon.


[This message has been edited by Uroboros (edited 05-05-2001).]

Hi

The point is that it would work with your VooDoo card if the drivers were DX7 & DX8 compliment (which they are not).

For those that don't know a driver is the software that sits between DX and the Graphics card - we tell DX what to do, it tells the driver and the driver tells the card - If the driver is not compliment with the lastest version of DX then things go wrong.

I'm just as annoyed as you are with this, but it is not our responsibility to write drivers for G-cards.

And the reason why your other games work is because they don't use DX7 & DX8 specific graphics calls - you will find that more and more games come out in the future that will have the same problems.

We'll help as much as we can, but pressure needs to be applied to the card manufactures to sort most of these problems.

For an interesting read, have a look at http://www.3dfx.com

As I say, help we will try, but some of this is out of our hands.

Cheers,

Steve

Well Steve, all I can say is that you better change what is listed on your web site, and quickly recall every unit of Typhoon that is shipped thus far, and offer a full refund to each consumer. You should then paste a label on each and every Typhhon box that is placed back on the market clearly indicating that it will not run on 3DFX cards. That is the only ethical thing you can do at this point other than fixing the game. I can give you my address so you can send me the check if you need it.

Fish,

Missed the point again -

It's the card that should be sent back, not Typhoon - then they should put a big sticker on it saying, this card is not DX complient!

Cheers,

Steve

Fishbed

I appreciate your frustration. Let's be careful when we make certain statements regarding 3dfx cards.

The problems are with the V3 series, not all 3dfx cards. I use a 3dfx V5 5500 and have excellent results.

I'm not sure what the problem is...or whether or not anything can be done about it. Until someone identifies what the specific problem is, perhaps we all ought to step back and hold our fire!

Andy

Hey can I just ask what the patch that's come out is for? Has DX 8.1 come out yet?

EF2000

It's not really a patch as such. It's a file that addresses a specific sign on problem that some folks were having.

I believe SimHQ is going to post it on the news. If not, e-mail me and I'll send it to you.

Andy

Yeah, Thanks Andy, I've got the patch, but not the game yet. (I'm in New zealand you see). Anyway, can you tell me how to use it?

I'm not very computer literate, so you may have to treat me like an idiot.

Email: terminal_velocity_typhoon@hotmail.com

Bought it today, and no problems on Voodoo 5500 here with DirectX 8.0a.

James

EF2000

This from Rage:

>>If anyone has a problem where they can't enter their name in the typhoon pilot login screen, this file will fix the problem.

Copy it into your 'rage software\eurofighter typhoon\players' directory.

This is a DX8 Input bug and will be fixed by microsoft in DX8.1 next month.<<

Andy