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Passenger jet crashes into Potomac River


"A passenger jet collided Wednesday with a military helicopter while landing at Ronald Reagan National Airport near Washington, prompting a large search-and-rescue operation in the nearby Potomac River.

There was no immediate word on casualties, but all takeoffs and landings from the airport near Washington were halted as helicopters from agencies across the region flew over the scene in search of survivors. Inflatable rescue boats were being launched into the Potomac River from a point near the airport along the George Washington Parkway, just north of the airport."


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Looking at this map, why was the Blackhawk in the airport landing approach path of commercial airliners?

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RIP to those who perished.


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Sadly there was a well know Russian figure skating pair as well as young skaters and coaches on board, 30+ bodies recovered so far.


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[quote][/Looking at this map, why was the Blackhawk in the airport landing approach path of commercial airliners?
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I keep asking that question too. I have not heard anything close to an answer. Strangely I have not heard a news person even ask.

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According to the latest report i read, there were NO survivors from the plane or the helo.


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I'm going to say something unpopular:

The Airport is owned by the Federal Government, and operated by Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority, which seems to be an independent entity created by Congress.

According to this article,

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The Associated Press obtained a report which showed one air traffic controller was working two positions at the time of the crash.

Typically, the two assignments are split between two air traffic controllers, not just one.


"The position configuration was not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic," the report says.

The FAA did not immediately respond to Fox News Digital’s questions and request for comment on the matter.

The air control tower at Reagan airport has been understaffed for years with 19 fully certified controllers as of September 2023. However, staffing targets set by the FAA and the controllers’ union call for 30.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/staffing...er-not-normal-night-collision-faa-report


The incoming administration needs to apply hot coals to the CEO in charge of MWAA and get to the bottom as to why they were so understaffed, and operating below Federally mandated minimums. Understaffing to this degree should be a criminal violation, punishable by jail time for the CEO. More CEOs in prison would be healthy for the workforce. Too often do they screw up in the name of profits and only suffer a minor fine that their company pays for them.


Unacceptable.


The military, on the other hand, needs to immediately investigate the CO who authorized this Blackhawk training flight in the area, and allowed their flight plan to overlap a landing corridor of a public airport.

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CNN has released two videos showing a different angle, it appears that they were at Co-Alt and well lit I can't see how they didn't see the Airliner? It happened very quickly and appears the airliner lost a wing in the collision resulting in an immediate dive to the river. I hope it was quick for all those people..

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The understaffing at the control tower is going to be a huge focal point for this investigation. I'm sure some heads will roll.


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This a helicopter close call that happened a day earlier in the same area:


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As to the helicopter crew not seeing the airliner's lights, I suspect this article has it right:

NEW: What the Latest, Shocking Video of the DCA Mid-Air Collision Appears to Show

The NTSB's investigation will probably clear up other questions, such as altimeter setting and if the crew was wearing night vision goggles.

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A very sad accident.

I hope FAA will review its procedures and stop trying to shove so many aircraft in such a small airspace with little regard to crews workload.

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I would think that it will be a confluence of a couple factors. Staffing of tower seems to be a major issue. Complicating things is the mix of civilian and military, particularly frequencies and identification beacons/transponders. I will wait for the results of the investigation.

But, that said, my initial impression is that the helicopter is going to have the majority of fault.


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I’m sure that will be an issue the NTSB will examin.


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I've never seen this done before. The public has a right to know.

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