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reposting banned content.


No aircraft has ever pulled 7g for two seconds. Video games are not real.

The one attempt to prove this ended in a fake video. The video of the gripen pulling 9g is fake and was refuted by analysis of reference points and application of the formula for the circumference of a circle.



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Why don't you do as the moderators ask and stop being a weirdo? Get whomever you are speaking with to post here or gtfo.

You are extremely rude.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Why don't you do as the moderators ask and stop being a weirdo? Get whomever you are speaking with to post here or gtfo.

You are extremely rude.


I am not being rude, I am simply expecting to be banned fast.

As for the dcs people they are not concerned that video games like dcs are physically impossible by a factor of a thousand. You can do 7g for a few seconds, not hours like in a video game.

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I don't understand the purpose or point of this. A bug in DCS? OK smile Why it needs to be broadcast like it's a massive conspiracy is lost on me.


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It's not a conspiracy, no aircraft has ever pulled 7g for even two seconds in real life.

And the single gripen video to dispute this was proven false.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaPfUs6sQw

From 1:15 to 1:30 the plane turns 180 degrees. This is 12 degrees/second.

Radius is a kilometer so the velocity is 200 m/s. It comes to 4g.

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If we all agree with you will you leave?


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If we all agree with you will you leave?


There is no need to reply, I just post this one time for lurkers.

But I will not intrude on any of your threads.

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Originally Posted by Mustang1
It's not a conspiracy, no aircraft has ever pulled 7g for even two seconds in real life.


Of course it's a conspiracy.

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From 1:15 to 1:30 the plane turns 180 degrees. This is 12 degrees/second.


From 1:14 to 1:29 it turns 270 degrees, not 180. This is 18 degrees/second as an average.

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Radius is a kilometer so the velocity is 200 m/s. It comes to 4g.


You cannot tell the radius of the turn or the speed of the aircraft in the video. Not only that, but the speed and radius may not even be constant if the aircraft has to bleed speed to maintain g.

I'm also sure that you know that the bank angle required to keep the aircraft at constant altitude in a turn is directly related to the amount of G being pulled, and those wings are nearly vertical. 2g is at 60 degrees, 4g is ~75 and 9g is at ~83.6. A lot of the demo turns are ascending or descending, but this particular one does neither, and it looks like a >75 degree bank angle to me.

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Ghost, it is very obvious to anyone watching the videos you are simply wrong. I encourage your incorrect claim that the plane turned 270 degrees, despite it not facing the airfield at all that it was parallel to.

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Originally Posted by Mustang1
Ghost, it is very obvious to anyone watching the videos you are simply wrong.


No, it's obvious from watching the video that YOU are wrong. The Gripen starts its 9g sustained turn flying parallel to the runway, turning left 270 degrees ending up pointed perpendicular to the runway


The runway is clearly under the aircraft and parallel to it's flight path here as the aircraft rolls left to start it's turn to the left:

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And here at the end of the 270 degree turn the aircraft is pointed at the side of the runway perpendicular to it:

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost
You cannot tell the radius of the turn or the speed of the aircraft in the video. Not only that, but the speed and radius may not even be constant if the aircraft has to bleed speed to maintain g.

I'm also sure that you know that the bank angle required to keep the aircraft at constant altitude in a turn is directly related to the amount of G being pulled, and those wings are nearly vertical. 2g is at 60 degrees, 4g is ~75 and 9g is at ~83.6. A lot of the demo turns are ascending or descending, but this particular one does neither, and it looks like a >75 degree bank angle to me.


The above is also 100% factual, undeniable and easily proven by watching the video.


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Your original claim was that was at 1:29. Epic math fail.

I'm not even trolling, you refuted your own argument.

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But I mean, my point is clear, I don't see a need to debate further.

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