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I love the Pfalz EIII

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CatKnight, the Morane can be quite the killer if handled properly. The observer has a great field of fire and that makes up for a lot of its shortcomings.

It's good to see you back in the fray.

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Mudwasp and Lederhosen, how is the visibility in the Pfalz? Does it fly any better than the Fokker EIII? I know it cannot be any worse but I do like the view in the Fokker.

Welcome back CatKnight. It seems the Centinary Challenge is heating up. Personally, I love these so much I have not flown anything but for over a year.


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well looking up is a pain because of the wing. I think it flys better than the EIII.

However, the rotary engine is just as brittle as the Fokker. One hit and the fight is over.


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MFair, I pick the Pfalz EIII over the Fokker EIII, or any of the Fokker E series.

Pros;
faster in level flight,
faster 'no damage' dive speed too
more ammo than the early Es,
better maneuverability,
it wants to climb, the Fokkers can struggle to gain altitude,
takes wing hits better...just my opinion...but a single bullet to the wing has NOT put me in a death spiral,

Cons;
Lack of visibility from the upper wing

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Sgt Arthur Much, Abeele RFC-5, 26th January 1916

Ruddy Hun! Bombing mission today, to hit a railyard just north of Lens. I lead the flight with Wilbert along to help. We arrive without incident, I drop my eggs, complete and utter miss, but Wilbert's load does the trick! I see two or three buildings on fire, good show! We make the turn for home. A mile short of the lines I hear that infernal buzzing noise. I look back and see three Eindeckers closing on us. As I put our kite into a shallow dive to try to pick up speed I hear an almighty hullaballoo behind us. Looking back I see one Eindecker in flames and another craft in a similar state. Unfortunately I no longer see Wilbert and assume the hun must have collided with him. No time to dwell on it. Two more of the blighters are after me. I make it to the lines and head straight for one of our balloons. My observer rattles off a few shots but then our pursuers decide that enough is enough and they leave us in peace. Poor Wilbert. Nothing for it but to carry on.

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Originally Posted By: MudWasp
MFair, I pick the Pfalz EIII over the Fokker EIII, or any of the Fokker E series.


I don't know, that second gun on EIV comes in pretty handy. In fact, I've noticed recently that it is no longer this easy to shoot down EIII's, nor do I lose so much control after getting hit. Maybe the Devs tweaked it with the latest patch, or maybe it's just me. wacky


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That second gun on the EIV is sweet, but that second row of pistons doubles the "ramdom" engine failures in my experiences.

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Thanks for the tips folks. I am in the EIII so will have to make a living at it until June. Let's hope I live that long.


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Don't get suckered into turn fighting a Nupe and you'll do fine, MFair

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Salute

I actualy got the wind up today. here I was thinking the Pfalz EIII is the cats meow, then I got my Butt handed back to me.

FFA4b was to do a show bombing some airfield Isilsomething (that just shows how serious I took this one). I was top cover for 3 Aviatiks. Coool I think. Off we go and go over at 2400m. A Be2 here, a Be2 there....no big deal. Flakfuer a bit hot in some places. Then we reach target, no one home, and the boys start bunging the bombs...ONE at a time!! This is going to take forever I'm thinking, and 16km over the front....not good.

And so it had to happen, two N10's thought they would come home to land when they spotted us. So it's power on and off they go climbing for us. Hmmmmm, not to bad, it's going to take a while to get up to us. So I just circle and wait...and wait....and wait. Finally the Aviatiks decide to turn for home. The N10's are still lower but I can almost see the pilots faces by now.

1st idea...stay above the Aviatiks and let them shoot the N10's to bits. But what the...haaaay! they turn back to have another run at the airfield. Now the N10's are just below us and any real advantage I had is gone. So I pick one out and plan to zoom and boom him. Well this bus aint to good at it as I find out. Now I'm co-alt with one N10 and the other is almost there too.

Now comes the shock....I don't turn as well as the N10 after all, plus all this turning is costing me altitude...yikes! I look around for the others but they are quite far away form us and a lot higher...so no help from them, poo.

I can't get on the tail of this one N10 but out of desparation a send off a burst in his general direction and it works...he pulls away from me but his friend is now on my 6!! turn turn turn, this is getting me nowhere. They cant shoot at me and I cant shoot either, but I'm miles from home. I like this pilot and I dont want to loose him. And this is now when I start getting the wind up, and felt a little panic building up inside of me. I knew this was a God awfull sh...y mess I'm in and I can also see that I'm loosing the battle. I've ran out of ideas. Diving wont help they will just catch up. They climb better and turn a little better tooo. Crap

Then one makes a mistake... he stalls his bus, so he was flying over the limit as well. Down he goes but the other is still after me. I try the squirt trick again and he pulls out of the turn letting me make a dash for home. I know it wont take long for them pick up my scent again...especially as my pants are brown by now, leaving plenty of scent to follow!. Things look good at first and I get my hopes up for about 30sec, then I see they are faster than my bus. I cant run, I'm going to have to duke it out.

So I turn sharply to the right and fly straight in headfirst with my MG blazing. This seems to of worked and the rear most N10 runs for home. Turn fight with the other one again, left, right.....He almost has me....and then he breaks off. I can't beleave my eyes..its true and I'm not going to ask him whats wrong either!

Whew..I make it back, and just as I turn my engine off, the others arrive to land.
That was the worst fight I've had to date, and what a wake up call it was too.

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Great story, that was probably just a small taste of what those guys really went through.


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Yep, great story lederhosen! I like the Pfalz over the Fokker as well, but you definitely don't want to understand the baddies.

Last night I flew what I expected to be a relaxing Airco DH.2 vs. two Fokker Eindeckers before bed. Better, one of the E.IIIs decided he just wasn't feeling it today and went home.

Immelman or Boelcke flew the other one. He chased me up and down the front for 10 or 15 minutes before simply... leaving. Not quite what I had in mind!

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Journal Entry: January 27, 1916
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The last two days have been maddening, I can only assume that the brass hats don't think we are dying quick enough to satisfy them. We were sent yesterday to attack the Hun aerodrome at Ghistelles, which we had never done before, so off we charged like the gallant knights of the sky that we are. We returned only to be told by someone sitting behind a desk that our performance wasn't quite up to 'snuff' for them. So, this morning we are ordered to attack once again. I am reminded of Henry V and his stirring, "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead." That is my favorite of Shakespeare's works and here I am about to relive it, interesting how life works like that. Anyway, we took off with the same task and just like yesterday our efforts were apparently not up to some brass hats idea of how an aerodrome should be attacked. Fortunately, we were told that we would not have to attack it a third time tomorrow. If we are going to start being ordered to attack ground targets then they must allow us time to develop the proper tactics. I could tell right from the start that we weren't going to be effective. We can't just fly around and take pot shots at things on the ground, that will work. We must develop some plan of attack that will maximize the strengths of our machines. I love a good problem, something for me to ponder over during the evening hours. On another topic, today Flight A finally joined the fray. I've been wondering when they were going to join this lovely little war. I've included a photograph of them actually engaging the enemy.





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You can actually see shell casings in the first screenshot. I've never seen that before in WOFF.

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Journal Entry: September 30, 1915
Bertincourt

The skies around Bertincourt have become extremely dangerous for those of us poor souls flying Aviatiks. The hated French have deployed a brand new aeroplane made by Nieuport that is causing us much heartache. Just yesterday, we lost Stegman and Seidel. I watched the whole thing and there wasn't a thing I could do to help. I had tears of impotent rage streaming down my face as I watched my comrades plunge to their deaths. I am determined to get into a scout somehow. I spoke to Hauptman von Schoenebeck about my concerns and once again he told me to calm down and be patient. I know he won't approve a transfer so I must bide my time. I can't believe that one of the best Jastas in the luftstreitkräfte doesn't have the newest machines. I need to stop whining, my duty is here and here is where I will perform it. I've included a photograph of our escort engaging one of these Nieuports.



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Journal Entry: October 2, 1915
Bertincourt

We lost Braun and Behl today. I don't understand why Hauptman von Schoenebeck would send one of us out alone. He ordered Schwarm Eins and Zwei to bomb a French aerodrome today and sent one aeroplane in Eins and three in Zwei. Why wouldn't he send two and two? Once again, I sat and watched as Braun and Behl were overwhelmed by two French Nieuports and there was nothing we could do about it. What makes this situation so bad, is we have no way of knowing if our blood and sweat are achieving anything. On a side note, I was promoted today. What should have been a joyous occasion was tarnished by the death of two more comrades.


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Dolf has had a busy week down in Alsace with the FFA 9b. Another Pfalz EIII pilot and a Fokker EII pilot transferred into the squad. Lt. Paul and the five Hauptmann sit around and admire the lone Aviatik CI, but none will fly it, it just sits there awaiting a pilot.

Several airfield defense missions flown, along with a scramble and a lone wolf. Dolf was ambushed by two Nupe10s on the lone wolf mission near Colmar and managed to down both of them, but no one believed him at the claims office. He had 3 claims confirmed by his squadmates on three separate airfield defense missions.

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I have never been so insulted in all my life! I don't think I even want to go back up with these braggarts and fools!

I've had a total of three flights and thought I did tolerably well. In the second match on the 25th instant we attacked the airfield at Haubourdin: 3 of us led by Lieutenant Norton. Our Moranes flew over the lines at well - I'm not really sure how high as the French builders do not believe in altimeters - but low enough to clearly see the workers below us trying to push gear and an unlucky two-seater out of harm's way. I made sure to swing behind Lt. Norton as I dropped my bombs this time, but Norton guessed wrong as well so all four of our bombs missed.

One day off and on the 27th instant we were off to spot for artillery NE of Loos on a brilliant day.


Fortunately the Krauts did not choose to contest us, so we arrived home.

That afternoon, while sitting with my mates in the officers lounge, we heard the low drone of engines followed by screams and shouts: The Germans launched a counter-raid! Bombs fell across the field. The only tent to take a hit was, of course, mine.

That wasn't the insult. You can't hate them for doing their jobs.

No, the insult came when Lt. Norton took me aside, explained there was an irregularity with my paperwork, and taken that with the German raid perhaps it was better if I messed and supped with the inferior officers for the time being. With sergeants for Christ's sake!

There are three sergeants plus myself, and I was greeted with mostly indifference and a complete lack of interest in my family's pedigree. Only Sergeant Foster was civil, and that because he was part of the attack where we all earned kills on the 24th. Apparently on that scale we are tied for second, trailing only 2nd Lieutenant O'Keefe with three.

Wonderful. I'm equal in skill to a sergeant.

I will have to begin plotting my escape - and my revenge - from these infernal men.

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Here is the latest status report. By the way, if you don't want to calculate your score that's fine, I now have a formula that will do it for me.



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