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I'm pretty sure they are aware of the fence issue.

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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I must report that Anthony Argrave, famous Sopwith 1½ Strutter pilot had met his end. Landing at Bertangles West he didn't see the fence coming. Although he went through the fence ok, WOFF insists he is dead. He had 30 hours in 34 sorties. I think something should be done about these fences cuss

I also noticed while flying the strutter that it is tail heavy which is good for getting above your wingmates, but also that application of rudder only put on some bank as well. Is this correct for the aircraft?

Here is my new pilot ready to go! (and I have moved the date to 7 August 1916)


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Those fences are deadly so I always recommend circling any prospective landing point at low level in order to detect where they are before landing. Of course this assumes you have time to do so and are not making a dead stick landing.

I find the Strutter fairly docile for landing. I can use rudder only for a slow flat turn without banking. Is this what you are trying to achieve? It sounds like you are getting banking when you don't want it. I also find this capability useful as I can go into a nose down 45 degree flat spin and decend quickly without exceeding my air speed limitations. You will see that I have done that in some of my vids just before landing at my home field.


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Originally Posted By: MFair
I think the worm has turned for Mfair. Edward Eastwood has just passed the 20 hour mark and now a small case of nerves has set in. Before DID campaign I do not think I ever had a pilot with more hours than victories. To be honest I have to look and see how many victories Edward has. Not really a concern anymore. Now I am totally concerned with getting home in one piece. Have to admit it is a whole new outlook on things. Thanks to all for your help on the journey.


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Mudwasp, Aarik Bachmeier is sure having his share of bad luck! Hope things change for the better


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His luck could be worse. He is still alive....

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The continuing career of Albert "Mushroom" Ward:

7 Aug 1916 @ 06h38 Bomb enemy front lines east of Bethune. THe C.O. heard about my unauthorized flight
to Bertangles and my personal stash of single malts. I suspect he will be enjoying a bottle tonight at
my expense. I guess that's a reasonable price for not being disciplined!

I lead the flight with Parsons, Soar, and Mesurier accompanying. “A” flight sent two Strutters ahead of us for the first pass on the target.

The flight was uneventful until we bombed the target area. Upon return we encountered three EIII’s well below us trying to gain position to attack but we had altitude and speed and outran them. The bombing was successful and we had 50% hit rate.

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7 Aug 1916 @ 14h19 Bomb enemy front lines South West of Messines

Hill lead the flight with myself, Hervey, Booker, Mesurier, and Shook accompanying.
We had 3 km winds from the WsW and scattered cumulous between 4000 and 5500 feet. The flight to the target was without enemy contact and the target was unobscured by cloud cover. We bombed successfully and returned to base safely.

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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I must report that Anthony Argrave (...) had met his end.
Landing at Bertangles West he didn't see the fence coming.

Damn, Jim, I'm sorry for him - over 30 hours gone to hell!
I wish the new man even better luck and awarenss - and better de-fence tactics. biggrin


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While waiting for his coffee in a café at Paris, Charles C. Johnson read the newspaper. His eyes were catched by an article around the strutter ace Anthony Argrave, and that he came to an early, to early end!

Garcon, voulez-vous donnez moi une bouteille de champagne? Merci!

When the Champagne arrived, he stood up, raised his glass, saluted: " To all the brave airmen, which have been called home way to early! Cheers!


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Nice of you to drink the Champagne, but actually Anthony Argrave was not brave at all - he spent all his time cowardly running away!


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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Nice of you to drink the Champagne, but actually Anthony Argrave was not brave at all - he spent all his time cowardly running away!


You know, Im new to the front,and war, ánd the newspaper dont used to talk about cowards, but heroes. Its better for the morale, and the warbond.


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[quote=JimAttrill] I also noticed while flying the strutter that it is tail heavy which is good for getting above your wingmates, but also that application of rudder only put on some bank as well. Is this correct for the aircraft? /quote]

WW1 planes are generally tail heavy. The Strutter flies level around 73% throttle (cruise speed 75). I use full throttle for climbs and 30/50% for descents following desired angle.


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Originally Posted By: corsaire31
[quote=JimAttrill] I also noticed while flying the strutter that it is tail heavy which is good for getting above your wingmates, but also that application of rudder only put on some bank as well. Is this correct for the aircraft? /quote]

WW1 planes are generally tail heavy. The Strutter flies level around 73% throttle (cruise speed 75). I use full throttle for climbs and 30/50% for descents following desired angle.


And do you turn mostly on the rudder or the ailerons?


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Jim, I can flat turn the strutter with rudder and opposite aleron. Works for left and right turns. Can spin it in tight circles like a maple winged seed "helicopter" floating down.

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Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Jim, I can flat turn the strutter with rudder and opposite aleron. Works for left and right turns. Can spin it in tight circles like a maple winged seed "helicopter" floating down.


Great description, you described it better than I could.


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A coordinated turn must be a combination of rudder and ailerons otherwise you get a sliding turn (this is why on later airplanes there is a ball to show you when your turn is right)

Following all the tutorials I read and watched when I started Rise of Flight a few years ago I always initiate turns with the rudder and stabilize with ailerons. Once in the turn the ailerons keep the angle while the rudder is used to keep the nose at the right place (specially with rotaries, depending if you turn left or right).

You can have a look at this adress : http://www.youtube.com/user/Requiem10NS

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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Nice of you to drink the Champagne, but actually Anthony Argrave was not brave at all - he spent all his time cowardly running away!


There is no shame in running away because it is always a matter of judgement as to whether the odds are in your favour or against you. You do what you have to do to survive and fight another day. A dead pilot is of no use to the cause! A live one just may produce some stupendous results given time.

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Hi guys,

if I go with Level B how do I know who is doing what and what aces and squads I fought


You generally don't, just like real pilots didn't. Occasionally you might pick out a distinctive paint job that gives away an ace or a certain squad.


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Hi guys,

can't decide about labels.


I find the DID campaign an excellent motivation to fly seriously and realistically. If you have ever considered losing the training wheels, now is a great time to push yourself and fly without labels. (plus, nothing ruins the immersion of "being there" like putting a bunch of magic flying neon signs on your screen).

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There's nothing wrong with running away! I spend a lot of time doing just that in my campaign. If a mission fails but you live, they can always send you to try it again. Not so if you're dead... smile


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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Nice of you to drink the Champagne, but actually Anthony Argrave was not brave at all -
he spent all his time cowardly running away!

Well, what do you think how we others survive hour by hour?
I prefer to be a wise man who's regarded as a coward by some, who cannot know any better,
than being a dead fool who's regarded as a hero. Any time!
Carry on, Jim!


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There have been many great combat pilots. Until nowadays they commit to one rule: IF engaging in a fight , make sure u win. If the odds are even or agains you, do not engage, go defensive.

Where "defensive" means, chaff, flares, full AB opposite direction, IF without a wingie.

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