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I have flown some missions completely on autopilot if no EA appear. The AI pilot does a grand job (sometimes). I normally land myself as it is quicker without interminably circling the aerodrome. I just go straight in and land it. And when hit by ground fire the autopilot is useless so land or crash yourself.


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Autopilot??? Are we simming a post-WW2 air combat sim?
Guys, please let's use it at little as possible. It might be okay for videos bits,
and maybe also for long stretches of eventless straight flying. But you will only
get the real feeling, when you have to control the stick and plane ALL the time.
Fatigue and all that.
Yeah, can be boring - and boredom and tiredness are also enemies to fight.


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I knew that you wouldn't like it .... But I did read the rules salute


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Yes, sure - I never wrote a rule about it, cause I didn't even THINK, anyone would do that...
Now I feel a little bit like a CO must sometimes have felt, when confronted with another
funny mess made by his flyboys. biggrin

It isn't forbidden - and how could I forbid ANYthing to you guys?
You are all grown up, and you are far away and out of sight, when you fly.
I can only ask you for some gentlemanly conduct.

So I ask you - for the whole experience and a more realistic feeling of this campaign -
please use it as little as possible. For our collective immersion.

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Raf28, so You Know now, how I felt with my first Pilot Anton Gaertner. But, my observer didn't Fire at all".....

The result is in the charts......

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Olham, I'm with you on this one, how could you imagine someone could even think of flying a whole mission on autopilot in a WW1 sim ? eek

I used to kick in the autopilot for the long climb out circling, but since I was given the "next waypoint" tip by 77-Scout, I don't need it anymore, only a few seconds to stabilize the plane when taking en-route screenshots.

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29 Jul 1916 @ 05h15 bombing of Ghistelles Aerodrome

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Mesurier lead the flight with Shook, Hill, Myself, and Chadwick accompanying. “A” flight sent three Strutters for the second bomb run. On the approach to Ghistelles we encountered 6 EIII’s circling towards us but they would not attack..
Our bombing run was successful and we pummeled the aerodrome. All of us returned to base safely.

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29 Jul 1916 @ 13h22 Bombing of enemy lines East of Bethune.

Escort of 2 Nieuport 11’s from RNAS-1 out of Furnes.

Shook lead the flight with Hill, Myself, and Huskisson accompanying.
We had very heavy cloud cover approaching the target between 5000 and 6500 ft. We managed to find a slight hole in the clouds to allow us to unload our ordinance but were unable to determine if we hit the target. We say “A” flight pass us on our return and learned later that they nailed the target successfully. We all returned safely to base.

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RAFJenkins, If you have not done so, go to QC and fly a mission as observer. There you can see just what his field of fire is. It helped me with my observer. Sometimes if the EA is directly behind, he cant fire. Don't know if this was the case but worth a try if not. I have had a few of those "jumping out of the chair moments myself." Ain't this fun!


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In defence of the autopilot thing - first remember that I am a "C" pilot in more ways than one. I find it difficult to keep formation so when I lose the others I hit the button and it catches them up or down. The autopilot takes me to the lines and there I start flying against anything that is coming. And flying back is boring so I put the auto on once again. And when I get to the home airfield I land myself, just for fun.


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Congrats on the medals. Lou, you really should give your pilot a VC before it's too late. On the other hand, if you keep that up you'll have more victories than MvR by the year's end, and the British are going to run out of suitable awards for your pilot. smile


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Congratulations Lou, you are head and shoulders above us nimrods. Talking only of myself of course.


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Originally Posted By: corsaire31
...but since I was given the "next waypoint" tip by 77-Scout, I don't need it anymore,
only a few seconds to stabilize the plane when taking en-route screenshots.

How does that "Next waypoint" thing work???
I have assigned keys for that, but nothing happens, when I press them.
Am I overlooking something?


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Shift-W but you must have left your airfield for a while. Otherwise you are still 'taking off' If you keep doing it you will end up back at your originating airfield.


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What happens, if I press Shift-W - a time compression?
Or do I get "beamed" right to the next waypoint?


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From my post on the 'Navigation' thread... see particularly the p.s. at the end.

Originally Posted By: 77_Scout
Regarding waypoints, like Corsaire and Shiloh said you have the choice to just ignore them and make your own way to the target. A minor problem is that WOFF will (I think) sometimes penalize you with an unsuccessful mission ... because you never arrived at the early waypoints then WOFF doesn't look for you arriving at the target.

If you see that this is happening (i.e. the debrief tells you that you never reached the target area, when you know you did) then there is a way around the problem. The solution is to use the 'advance waypoint' function, which is shift-w, to tell WOFF to skip the early waypoints and only look at the target waypoint. About a minute after takeoff, hit shift-w once to skip past the 'circling climb' waypoint, then hit shift-w again if there is another waypoint ( 'waypoint 1' or 'waypoint A' ) between you and the target that you want to skip. At that point, WOFF should have the target as your next waypoint, and if you arrive there then you should get credit for it.

To get the hang of it, try a few test flight with the TAC on and you will see how using shift-w skips through the waypoints.

Or just say 'screw it' and live with the odd unsuccessful mission. It's not a big deal. Also, don't lead the flight and your problem is solved.

P.S. The skip waypoint function is also great for telling your flight leader to 'get on with it' when following him through that boring 'circling climb' phase. Hit shift-w once the circling-climb begins and he will head off directly on the mission.


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Originally Posted By: Olham
What happens, if I press Shift-W - a time compression?
Or do I get "beamed" right to the next waypoint?


No, but your aircraft is now pointed at the new waypoint (if you use the map or TAC).


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Lou, excellent work!
I have this round!

Olham, I've used the "shift w" and it does work, but the only way to be sure is to have the TAC thingy on. It advances one waypoint. I don't see any advantage to using it if TAC is off. Well, maybe if your not flight leader and want to go straight to the mission objective area.

Auto pilot... Don't use it in WOFF as it is an immersion killer for me. It doesn't ruffle any of my feathers if others use it

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Ah, okay, thx Jim and MudWasp - sp it only makes the whole flight head to the next waypoint,
but does no acceleration nor beaming.


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yep, no timewarp or acceleration

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