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Originally Posted By: Dart

I'm sick of this sim and I don't even have it yet.


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looks very modernishy-phoney-windows eighty-tabletty like

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Bisher at least have the decency to quote my actual quote rather than change the wording to suit your agenda.

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Ya right I copied and pasted from your post.

And it is this disconnect from the truth and reality that blows me away.

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Here I'll paste it again

When you have to make an effort to enjoy something then something is fundamentally wrong.


I've got the smoking paste right here 2005

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Originally Posted By: 2005AD
When you have to make an effort to enjoy a PC game then something is fundamentally wrong.


That sums it up beautifully.

A very few of us actually do enjoy putting in an effort to make an ACKNOWLEDGED flawed, broken, imperfect simulation enjoyable. We also enjoy sharing the various tips, mods, fixes, screenshots, videos, etc. with others of like mind. This sim's detractors resent these efforts and repeatedly express themselves accordingly. It kills the enjoyment, be sure.

The detractors of Cliffs of Dover have won out on this forum. Free speech prevails. Yippee.

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To me it's just a bit like buying a fancy new brand of beer because other people are buying it, drinking it and finding it's a bit flat and has a odd after taste. You complain on one of the beer tasters forums about these facts and the company and the some of the forum members say they're working on it but you just haven't tried hard enough to like it.

In other words it's your fault.

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Snapper the same thing happens in reverse, this sims advocators resent anyone who dares post something remotely negative and will repeatedly attack them. Oh wait, it's happening again... see a trend starting. It is a forum, people of opposite opinions tend to hang out here.

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Possibly. We shall see Bomber Harris.

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What you fail to see, 2005, is that your negative comments are not bringing anything new to the forum - it's just a continual rehash of complaints that drags down any positive new information about Cliffs of Dover - the afore mentioned tips, screenshots, videos, mods, etc. This forum is being reduced to the lowest common denominator - the same stinking morass of repeated (I repeat: repeated) complaints. To what end? Will Luthier stumble in at some point and realize that a bunch of Simhq members are really unhappy about Cliffs of Dover? That Luthier will suddenly pull his thumb out and fix everything because of this? Really??

What IS happening is that the main CONTRIBUTORS to this sim have either left or are about to. Gone. Nothing new to see here folks, move along. All that's left are the complainers with nothing to contribute. And this is a good thing?

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I am really sorry you are going to quit Freycinet. Your movies are perhaps the only reason I am visiting this forum. They sums up perfectly all the greatness of the game. Enjoy it every time I saw them and spent hours playing similar scenarios after watching them.

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Possibly. We shall see Bomber Harris.

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Originally Posted By: Snapper
What you fail to see, 2005, is that your negative comments are not bringing anything new to the forum - it's just a continual rehash of complaints that drags down any positive new information about Cliffs of Dover - the afore mentioned tips, screenshots, videos, mods, etc. This forum is being reduced to the lowest common denominator - the same stinking morass of repeated (I repeat: repeated) complaints. To what end? Will Luthier stumble in at some point and realize that a bunch of Simhq members are really unhappy about Cliffs of Dover? That Luthier will suddenly pull his thumb out and fix everything because of this? Really??

What IS happening is that the main CONTRIBUTORS to this sim have either left or are about to. Gone. Nothing new to see here folks, move along. All that's left are the complainers with nothing to contribute. And this is a good thing?




always look on the bright side off life!


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I feel partly the same way. I joined this forum years ago to get away from the idiots on the ubi forum. This used to be a place where there was always a good debate going on. Now it has swung the other way. I spend more time reading the 1C forum because there and just loads more Sim related posts. Personally I think that people were put off posting here due to the massive amount of garbage filling this forum up on a daily basis and nothing got done about it.


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Im pretty sure all of us(maybe not nuggs) would like to be talking about playing COD, but because of its flaws or bugs or something else, were not. i could write a list but im trying to be positive.
So when the sim is fixed(positive) and lots and lots of people are flying then we will have much more to talk about.

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The new Il-2 series is a WIP and hopefully it will be for another 10 to 15 years. Many people haven't gotten over the fact that the sim was released before it was finished. This forum will stay in a very negative state until the sim dies, or has seen more than a few decent patches. Unfortunately its the nature of the beast, and it doesn't take more than a few who feel the need to constanly remind us of the state of the sim.


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Without pointing fingers at anyone just in this post alone it illustrates what Frey is talking about, maybe he is being dramatic but WTF is anyone here actually a functional adult? Can people discuss a Game in these forums without acting like a bunch of spoiled entitled children? I mean I have gone to a lot of Forums and this one is really no different although it's better than the banana boards, I see people posting Demands and threaten Lawsuits over what the developer "owes" them, really? I just can't believe anyone truly is that ridiculous but, hey they are people and people are strange.
Frey, take a break dude. you are having a bad day it's just the internet you'll get over it. Everyone does eventually.


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Originally Posted By: Snapper
What you fail to see, 2005, is that your negative comments are not bringing anything new to the forum - it's just a continual rehash of complaints that drags down any positive new information about Cliffs of Dover - the afore mentioned tips, screenshots, videos, mods, etc. This forum is being reduced to the lowest common denominator - the same stinking morass of repeated (I repeat: repeated) complaints. To what end? Will Luthier stumble in at some point and realize that a bunch of Simhq members are really unhappy about Cliffs of Dover? That Luthier will suddenly pull his thumb out and fix everything because of this? Really??

What IS happening is that the main CONTRIBUTORS to this sim have either left or are about to. Gone. Nothing new to see here folks, move along. All that's left are the complainers with nothing to contribute. And this is a good thing?


LoL, such melodrama, our sim is failing, it's the detractors fault.

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Originally Posted By: JG52Uther
Probably best to leave before the ignominy of a perma ban...

Oh and if you think the 1C forum is full of nothing but deranged fanbois, think again.


Very true! I just visited their forum just to see if it was a fanboy haven as I thought it might be.

I was wrong. I read through just one thread on FM/DM and found there are posters that are very critical of

the game that can rival anyone here. Thats a good thing because the devs cant say they are not aware of the games

issues with aircraft pefrormance, which is the single biggest show stopper for me.


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