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#2081838 - 12/16/06 08:58 PM R-60 (AA-8 Aphid) family info
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This is some information that I have found at Russian forums.

It is about R-60 and R-60M missile -family-. In Soviet army, R-60 was the "generic" term for rear-aspect missile based on K-60 frame, and R-60M for all-aspect. Those "gothic" marks make the difference \:\)

List of R-60M modifications in 70's and 80's. Note that some were not in serial production!

R-60M (mod 62), Dec 1975.
R-60 differences-Warhead mass increased from 3 to 3.5kg with prefragmented-wolfram warhead. Lethal cone increased from 2.5 to 4m.

Cooled seeker "Komar-M" (OGS-75). Acquiring increased from 12 to 17 deg (24/34 deg total). Seeker has FOV of 5 deg and tracking speed of 30-35 deg/sec.
Engine is booster-sustainer type, five burning channels, duration 1.4-1.5sec. Increased accel. and range. Sustainer that starts 0.1-0.2sec after booster, burns 0.8 sec. Speed cca. 1000m/sec.

R-60M (mod 62P), 1975. Modification for MiG-25 interceptor. Seeker cone of thermoresistant glass. Vacuum between glass and seeker.

R-60M (mod 62M), 1977.
Seeker "Komar-2" (OGS-75M), tracking increased from 17 to 25 deg (34-50 total). Optical main fusing. "Kolibri" passive fuse removed, fuse with launch aircraft radar freq modulation installed (passive). Turbogenerator. New sustainer 4.4 sec. Speed cca.1050m/sec.

R-60M (mod 63), 1982. No data, probably prototype.

R-60M (mod 63M), 1983.
New bi-spectral seeker (no other info, probably measure against jamming). Induction fusing (probably from "Igla"). Introduced launch with initial pop-up (probably for use with helicopters). Sustainer is delayed if no pop-up is needed. Active flight-11 sec.

R-60M (mod 63P)
R-63M mod for interceptors MiG-25&31, adaptation as for R-62P.

R-60M (mod 63R), 1986.
Variant for Su-24, three-point initial guidance with IR seeker acquire on mid-course.

R-60M (mod 63V), 1989.
Based on mod 63M. Tracking system coupled with radio-receiver for "Ataka" system.

R-60M (mod 64X, X means various submods), R-60M missiles from mid-nineties vintage upwards.


Export versions have "K" designation after the main designation. Main difference is that it has not "secret" pre-fragmented warhead, but common wolfram rods.

Seeker has FOV of 5 deg and tracking speed of 30-35 deg/sec.

I have "remodded" existing R-60 according to this and additional data. It gave interesting results, mainly because of interesting physics of real missile, but I will write more about it if any interest is shown \:D
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#2081839 - 12/17/06 03:04 PM Re: R-60 (AA-8 Aphid) family info
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R-60MK of the East German AirForce LSK/LV had continious rod warheads. The rods consist of depleted uranium.
After unification of Germany the R-60MK was taken in service of the Luftwaffe, but the depleted uranium rods were replaced by wolfram rods of the earlier R-60.
The Luftwaffe found, that the R-60MK was comparable with the AIM-9L Sidewinder. It had a shorter range, but a better agility.
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#2081840 - 12/17/06 06:18 PM Re: R-60 (AA-8 Aphid) family info
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For MK it says "70% of (exported MK) missiles had "pseudorod" or fragmentation warhead, without having secret construction details, with the same mark- R-60MK". While this "secret" wolfram warhead was of continuous rod type, it would "not make linear, but large deltoid or romboid holes". It seems that rods didn't "tumble" in the air.

The missile itself has a great impulse (0.7sec to 1000m/s!) and great G (42/47), but in MiG-29 manual I didn't find that it can uncage seeker, which is a pity.

With only 4m blast radius and 7/12/47g limits and accel, it had to be a precise missile. Actually, changing of "jamming" parameters don't bother it much in a game \:D
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#2081841 - 12/17/06 06:28 PM Re: R-60 (AA-8 Aphid) family info
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The Luftwaffe pilots which i had the chance to ask told me, that the R-73, but also the R-60MK could be locked on via helmet mountet sight. But perhaps they also told me rubbish.
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#2081842 - 12/18/06 08:57 AM Re: R-60 (AA-8 Aphid) family info
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Gepard ..that is correct... 60MK was cued via HMS. when it apear Mig-29 , the R-73 was not operational.

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#2081843 - 12/18/06 07:17 PM Re: R-60 (AA-8 Aphid) family info
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I think it depends on the Airforce. In 1989 the LSK/LV started with R-73 HMS dogfight training. And later the Luftwaffe used the HMS for R-73 in life firing.
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#2081844 - 12/19/06 06:43 PM Re: R-60 (AA-8 Aphid) family info
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Yep, found it in the manual. Flies well now \:D

Manual/KOLS/SLEM/radar. I confused center of HUD (boresight) and missile sight display (cross and circle, go figure \:D ).

Uh, what is linear deceleration in SFP1 so I could adjust booster/sustainer? I read it elsewhere here, but I am currently on modem and cannot quite browse the forum \:\(
Booster lasts 1.4-1.5 sec, of that 0.7 for primary impulse (to 1000m/s!).
Sustainer lasts 0.8 sec for Mod62, 4.4sec for mod62m.
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