1.Star Wars Battlefront II
2.StarWars Knights of the Old Republic

are these like SW Galaxies you pay to play?? Which of those 2 would you reccomend??

I had SW Jedi Knight but never played online.

I am looking for a MASS multiplayer Game that has some sort of storyline and not just a SHOOTEM UP!!

Star Wars Galaxies is the MMORPG...from what I can tell it probably has a little bit of both story and shoot-em-up.

I highly recommend the Jedi Knight and KOTOR games both for the story and the action; if you do get KOTOR II, get the TSL Restoration mod available [url= http://"http://www.team-gizka.org"]here[/url].

Is he?

In episodes 1-3 I don't think Lucas portrayed the Jedi in the kindest of lights. The Pre-Emperial Jedi are portrayed as a highly orthodox religion, overly bound by years of tradition, and incapable of adapting enough to survive.

Indeed it is not a difficult assumption to come to, that the Jedi Order's growing weakness (as mentioned by Mace and Yoda (and possibly others) could be a direct effect of their discouraging of procreative relationships (The Cannon strongly suggests strongly that force use is hereditary).

Anakin, The Chosen One is supposed to bring balance to the Force (the jedi are so blind that they do not realize that they are the reason that the Force is out of balance), and he does just this. He elimnates the orthodoxy, and sires the next generation of Force users...


Yeah I've been a SW geek and a Sith Fanboy for a long time

That is an interesting way of interpereting that, Bromanov.

What Obi-Wan means about Sith believing in absolutes is reletively simple, and the idea comes from the fact that a lot of proto-religions and cults rely on absolutes to either gain or retain followers. Absolutes like "there is a God and He wears sandals" or "such-and-such is always bad" or "black is bad white is good", etc.

The Sith believed in the absolute of power; that he who has the most power must rule all, and that the goal of life is to feed their power. From Obi-Wan's point of view, the Jedi encourage peace through tolerance, and tolerance relies on the lack of absolutes, which the Sith see as weakening. It also makes sense that the Jedi hierarchy has become too ensconced in the mundame.

In the novelization, Yoda laments to Obi-Wan after his disasterous encounter with Palpy that he had the chance to adapt the Jedi to deal with these "new Sith", but failed because he could not see how they had redefined themselves. EU tells us that after the last Sith war (approximately 1000 years prior), there remained only about fifty Sith in the whole galaxy, who proceeded to consume each other in their lust for power (as all Sith did before them when they were too weak to project their power outward). The only survivor of this infighting, Darth Bane, started the "rule of two" that Yoda alludes to at the end of The Phantom Menace ("always two there are -- a master, and an apprentice").

Darth Sidious, the last scion of the Sith after he killed off Darth Plagueis, was the culmination of Bane's plan to so incorporate the Sith line into the running of the Republic, that when Force Push came to Choke, the Jedi would be blinded to the Sith Lord in their midst because, as Mace Windu says in the novel "the only reason we do not suspect Palpatine is because he already rules the galaxy." The Jedi forgot that the war was never truly about conquering the galaxy, but about exterminating the Jedi.

The novel also describes the Clone Wars as "the ultimate Jedi trap...by even entering it, they have already lost".

Oh, dear Lord...

Chuck

And I'm sure She agrees, Chuck...

How much weight would you place upon the Imperial Navy for failing to corral the Rebellion when it had the opportunity?

Also, would you attribute the technological inferiority in starfighters, particularly between the X-Wing and the TIE Fighter, to the Empire's major defeats?

I am now in the thread!

I will answer any and all questions. It should be noted that I am not only a member of SSFI (super secret fake insiders) but also the founder.

RB

The Imperial Navy was vast and well-disciplined, however, that does not necessarily work to their advantage. The old military axiom comes to mind here: "The insurgent wins by not losing, the army loses by not winning." For all their might, the Imperials lost not because they were stupid, but because they were too conformist, too unimagenitive; and that doesn't even touch on the many talented Imperial officers who defected to the Alliance. General Crix Madine, who you see in the briefing room in ROTJ, was one of the Empire's most ingenious covert specialists becore joining the Alliance after Hoth.

Also, though this is not covered in the films, the victory at Yavin 4 was really the first coup for the Rebellion. Before that, though they were themselves well-disciplined and -trained, the Rebels simply did not have the size nor the opportunity to really show up the Empire. They were a thorn in the Imperial hide, surely, but up till then the engagements of the Galactic Civil War consisted mostly of small-unit affairs, not unlike the French Resistance during WWII.

Also, bear in mind that there were several notable defeats for the Rebels, both before Yavin, and in between Yavin and the near-rout at Hoth. Derra IV is probably the best known; an important Alliance supply convoy, bound for Echo Base on Hoth, was interdicted by the Empire at that world and utterly destroyed.

The TIE Fighter was not necessarily "inferior technology", but instead the result of the Emperor's personal military philosophy. Palpatine, who fashioned himself as the center of Imperial authority, naturally had a hand in designing the Empire's armed forces, and be was a firm believer in quantity over quality. The TIE Fighter and its variants were the best personification of this philosophy that the Imperial war machine could come up with.

That said, the TIE Fighter, and its later variants, could be deadly dogfighters in the right hands. It was more maneuverable and faster then the X-wing; even though one-on-one the X-wing was the superior starfighter overall, the Empire's swarming tactics favored the TIE. The difference, in the long run, was that the increased survivability of Alliance starfighters over those of their Imperial counterparts enabled the Alliance to amass a force of experienced veterans who grew to trust and rely upon their machines, so that by the Battle of Endor, your average Rebel fighter squadron could be worth as much as three Imperial squadrons, depending on type, level of experience, and other factors.

This doesn't quite take into account the Rebels' and Imperials' newer fighter models, but the base formed in prior engagements would help the Rebels to further turn the tide of the Galactic Civil War after the death of Palpatine.

I could go on for quite a while, touching on tactics, overall strategies, leadership or campaign inertia, but that could last for hours...